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The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[–] [email protected] 285 points 1 year ago (17 children)

If you all think blocking a fascist server is going "too far" and you want to keep federating, then congratulations on becoming The Nazi Bar.

The "paradox" of tolerance is not some contradictory slippery slope. It is a fact of communities and must always be upheld. I hope our admin makes the correct choice.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tolerance is a peace treaty, not a moral precept.

Defederating is a proportional response to a server with a top-level community dedicated to trans hate.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago

I think people need to remember that nobody owes one's instance federation

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I could say some things about why some people here don't seem to think that people outright saying full-on alt-right shit is bad enough that we should defederate, but I don't think they'd actually understand or want to

fuck it; those people are so lucky that they've never had to think about the danger of alt-right shit as anything other than a thought experiment, the type that hasn't ever had to deal with people who fundamentally want them to stop existing

like guys, that's not "alt-right people are crazy weirdos but ultimately harmless", that's "I'm lucky because I just happen to not be a primary target for them, if a target at all, and I have mistaken this for the alt-right being of low influence"

honestly peak "I don't have to think much about politics, and haven't realized that this is an incredible privilege to have" behavior

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To put another spin on it, lemmygrad and exploding heads have an old beef with each other that predates the reddit migration. Far-left vs far-right, it's not rocket science. As an example try typing in lemmygrad.com and see which instance it takes you to.

Now ask yourself what it tells people when sh.itjust.works has lemmygrad defederated but not EH. It's an endorsement, no?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Exploding Heads has never defederated lemmygrad. We invite diverse opinions, discussion, and debate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago
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