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Just following on from this: https://lemmy.nz/post/1134134

Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'

I'm curious about how far this goes.

You can't get fired on the spot in NZ, unless you like, shot someone or set the building on fire or something really bad.

But it seems that in the US, there's little to no protections for employees when their bosses are dickheads?

Also, any personal stories of getting fired on the spot?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

California, where Tesla has their first factory in Fremont, is an "at will" employment state. Other states that are not "at will" generally have better protections for employees. In California, they can let you go without stating a reason, which makes it really hard to fight against it if it was really for an illegal reason (like they fired you for being gay or trans).

I don't know all the states that are "at will" but it's not all of them. And California is the most surprising one.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of them are "at will" except Montana.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Even Montana isn't noticeably better, it's almost the same as everywhere else.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Firstly, all states are "at will" except for Montana. Secondly, California probably has some of the best employee-protection laws in the US. They are still absolute crap compared to New Zealand and Europe but better than most other states.