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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he donated to (or still donates to?) homophobic action groups.
That's more than enough reason to boycott something that person is in charge of, imo
In 2008 he donated $1000 in support of California Proposition 8. I don’t know of anything else, at least publicly. Californians also voted and passed the amendment 52%/47%, it was thrown out by the courts.
More recently in 2020 he did say some of the typical conservative stuff about COVID lockdowns, mask mandates, calling Fouci a liar, etc.
How does that affect the software.
When you support software you support the company making it, allowing them to grow and profit. If someone does not want to financially support the actions of someone they disagree with, then that is fine.
If you don't mind homophobia, then use whatever Chromium-based crypto-wallet bloatware browser you want, dork. Nobody is telling you how to make your own decisions.
Wow he called me dork.
I'm offended
I do not want success for that man, therefore I'm not going to give his product market share
Market share.. Of something that can be had free? You are making less and less sense.
Yes, because if the browser has no market share, there is no point in it continuing to exist and the company folds.
I don't care if it's free or costs money, the man gets paid if the product is successful. I don't want to support him, therefore I don't use the product. If enough people agree with me and do the same, the product dies & the man fails. Or at the very least the rest of the company kicks him out and the man still fails.
Like this isn't rocket science
This makes no sense.
How do you expect to convince a large group to stop using a product? Just by saying "he's bad"?
Be honest with yourselves and admit it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling of "sticking up to the man" by doing... Nothing.
You see you are deluding yourselves in believing you are making a change, but it's all in your head.
Have you never heard of a boycott?
I've said why I think he's bad, therefore I boycott him and his product. There are other people out there doing exactly the same.
I'm not really sure how you're struggling with this
How are you thinking of stopping a free product.
You know they still profit from the product right? How the fuck else would they continue to exist?
The ads, that you can choose to hide, and donations.
Okay, one last time, but I've said all this before in fewer words:
Brave is owned by a for-profit company that makes money from its users. One of the ways it does this is the ad credits system on the new tab page (there's probably other ways, I've not looked into it too hard)
If it doesn't have enough users (market share) to sustain the company or if they can't sell the ad space, the company doesn't make enough money to sustain itself and has to do something or fold. If the company folds development stops, the product stagnates and basically dies.
The company might decide to kick out the CEO if enough people are boycotting for the same reasons, that would resolve the issue too.
But yeah I don't even care about the software, I just don't want to support the company and therefore the CEO, so I won't use its product. Otherwise known as a boycott
There's not really much else to say about it
@9point6 @Ogygus
Brave is owned by a for-profit company that makes money from its users.Isn't this true for most browsers? The fact that you speak of 'market share' implies profit for somebody at some point. In most cases Google, Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla or somebody. Good for you for deciding who you want to support, but you make it sound like there is something wrong with it being owned by some corp...when the same is true for everything elseAh sorry, that's not what I intended that part to mean, I wasn't saying brave was particularly unique in that fashion, just that it has a company that develops it, which makes money from its market share.
Trying to explain to the other person how a boycott is still a thing for products that are free.
As i said in another comment:
Be honest and admit that you not using it the product won't change anything, you just want to have the warm fuzzy feeling of "sticking it to the man" without doing anything.
And finally, you admitted it.
But i have a singular, most concerning word for you: Donations.
There are people who pay for software (lol) and will keep things afloat for quite a while.
Look, if that's how you define a boycott, then be my guest I guess. A bit off the mark but I guess I'm clearly lacking the ability to get it across to you. No fuzzy feeling, maybe avoiding a vague shitty feeling I'd have for using it.
Donations require users, if all the users boycott then they get no donations.
Or maybe look at the inverse, the company is losing out on potential donations by users boycotting, whether significant or not. Same goes for ad impressions, etc
Donations require ONE user (with a big donation).
You are doing this just to feel a bit better. But it won't change brave marketshare in the slightest.