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The good parts of the bible are often taught but rarely followed.
Jesus was apparently a real guy according to consensus among biblical scholars, he just wasnt magical. Speaking as a satanic catholic, I would follow (edit: some of) the teachings of Jesus, but his dad can fuck right off.
Why do we always emphasize the things we think were good and ignore the bad teachings? Should we agree with him that skepticism is bad? That non-Jews aren't worthy of his efforts or ministry? That there should be no personal accountability when acting in his name? I've got a list of verses where Jesus was a dick.
Critical reading of the scriptures is better than reverential.
Basic human trait: we focus on positive things and omit the bad parts related to an event, person or whatever.
Belief is not exempt.
I'd love to see the verses for "skepticism is bad" and "non-Jews aren't worthy" personally. More for kicks and giggle than anything.
I just posted them here:
https://lemmy.one/comment/2272012
Aw the ones I was most interested aren't as clear as I was hoping. But thanks for sharing!
Jesus, or yahweh?
Jesus. From the Gospels.
I guess I will have to read those books then. If you have any verses handy or any specific gospels that you think would be good to start with to give a more critical read on jesus I would love to see them. I did a quick read on wikipedia and didn't see anything about jesus's views on skepticism. The article says his followers and enemies claimed he was devine, but I don't see that jesus himself did. The story goes that jewish people killed Jesus, and the article says it was due in large part to claiming he was devine.
I guess if hard pressed I would follow the teachings of jesus over yahweh, but mostly because I get haircuts, wear poly-cotton blends and eat shellfish. Jesus was never against these things, but I know yahweh would tell me to kill my son just for fun.
I'm glad you asked! Here's a list of verses I've compiled that, in context and stated by anyone else, would get them run out of town.
Jesus fails to "turn the other cheek" and instead gets violent: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21:12-13
He threatens eternal torture in fire to anyone who doesn't accept his teaching:
https://biblehub.com/matthew/10-28.htm
https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-19.htm
https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-41.htm and https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-42.htm
https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-49.htm and https://biblehub.com/matthew/13-50.htm
https://biblehub.com/matthew/25-46.htm
https://biblehub.com/mark/16-16.htm
https://biblehub.com/luke/12-5.htm
https://biblehub.com/john/3-18.htm, etc.
He kills a fig tree for not bearing fruit that he knew was out of season: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+11%3A12-25
He endorses racism: https://biblehub.com/matthew/15-24.htm
When a gentile woman begs for his help he calls her a dog: https://biblehub.com/matthew/15-25.htm and https://biblehub.com/matthew/15-26.htm
He plays favorites: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark+4%3A10-12
He destroys a village's livelihood: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+8
He teaches Christians to have a persecution complex: https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-11.htm
He teaches thought crime: https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-28.htm
He disputes the concept of personal responsibility: https://biblehub.com/matthew/6-25.htm
He condemns skepticism: https://biblehub.com/matthew/14-31.htm and https://biblehub.com/john/20-27.htm
He teaches self-harm in the cause of religious purity: https://biblehub.com/matthew/18-8.htm
He sends his disciples to steal a manโs donkey: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+19%3A29-34
He was not a peacemaker: https://biblehub.com/matthew/10-34.htm
He was divisive: https://biblehub.com/luke/14-26.htm and https://biblehub.com/luke/14-33.htm
He was a liar: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john+7%3A8-10
Beautiful. Thank you!