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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no democracy without the general public voting. It is a component of ALL democratic systems.

What evidence do you have that your scenario is what AP means when they refer to democracy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s a fair description of the system the British set up in Hong Kong right before they had to hand it back to China. It’s the same system that “pro-democracy” advocates in Hong Kong were defending. As such I think it’s reasonable to assume that’s what the AP and Jimmy Lai are referring to.

As for voting I’m not saying it isn’t a useful mechanism through which the general will of a population can be expressed. Instead, I am saying that voting alone is not the crux upon which democracy hinges. I personally prefer voting as a mechanism over sortition and consensus in most cases. However, that wouldn’t mean either of those mechanisms couldn’t be the basis for democratic decision making.