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this thread is wild
can we remember, everyone:
discussion on who is winning has no bearing on discussion of who is in the right, and vice versa
Russia, Ukraine, and NATO can all be evil and wrong for separate and true reasons
criticizing NATO does not amount to supporting Putin
criticizing Putin does not amount to supporting NATO
Can we also remember that Russia is a country and Putin is it's head. You don't even know the name of the top leadership of NATO. You don't say this is Biden's proxy war but you imagine every single decision is Putin's.
And also, stop psychologizing world leaders as though you have a parasocial relationship with them.
A democratically elected president and a dictator don't represent their people with the same legitimacy nor do they have the same concentration of powers at their personal disposal.
So the Russian Federation, a republic, built in the aftermath of the dismantling of the largest bureaucratic democracy in the world built under the eye of the West for the purpose of liberty and freedom and economic capitalism, that Russian Federation is so different than the West that we can attribute nearly all bad things done by Russia to Putin, but in the West it's such a complex and nuanced situation that it's really the whole system to blame?
Keep buffing cope. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I don't imagine that every decision is Putin's, and it's just as much Biden's proxy war as Putin's except that Putin has been head of government for the entire duration of the build-up whereas the build-up started 4 US heads of government ago. I'm just using the terminology most frequently used in the discourse.
Also I will psychologize any world leader I please, any leader of a bourgeoisie state is a horrible wretched ghoul