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[–] [email protected] 114 points 10 months ago (4 children)

not sure if it hits like it did in my head

[–] [email protected] 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Electric cars are here to save the car industry, not the environment.

The most environmentally friendly car is the car you already have, and the most environmentally friendly (also safest, healthiest, quietest, just in general the most considerate) way to get from point A to point B is by walking, biking, bus, or train.

The only time EV saves the environment is when all of the following are met:

  • your old car is completely gone,
  • there is zero way to get to where you need to be without a car,
  • and you have been fighting for good transport and safe bike lane all along.
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I bought an electric car because it was a better car for my needs. I got a good deal on it. Electric cars have fewer, simpler moving parts. They require fewer oil changes and don’t have to deal with heat dissipation. I can also have it plugged into my house each night, which means I always have a “full tank” every morning. I can set the heat or air conditioning to come on on a schedule because it doesn’t produce carbon monoxide. The car is much quieter and drives a lot smoother.

They have a lot of benefits, but they don’t exactly save the environment. Lithium mining is very destructive to the local environment and it’s done in countries with questionable ethics around worker health and safety. Most experts agree that over the lifespan of a car, electric cars are better for the world environment than gas vehicles, but if you really want to make an impact on the environment, taking public transit or biking or walking or other forms of micro-mobility would actually make a way bigger impact. And if those kinds of things are difficult where you live, you should really be supporting public policy to make that better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Very good. Bottom panel could also read "to save the automotive industry ☝️"