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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Is there no cycling infrastructure in this city? I mean I support people to cycle in whatever way they can but this seems like a dangerous way to ride.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

This was filmed in London, which actually has some of the best cycling infrastructure in the UK (though that's a low bar to pass). It seems, however, that he's taking a route that happens to not have much of that infrastructure on it.

Though as you say, people should be able to cycle however they please, and it is enshrined in UK law that cyclists are not required to use cycling infrastructure. In this case I'd say he's going fast enough that he'd be a danger to the slower cyclists and pedestrians on the cycle paths and multi-use pathways, so riding on the road makes more sense anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (5 children)

There's definitely some bits of that with a shared pedestrian/cycle path on the left.

While it's perfectly legal to ignore that, I've seen how people drive in this country. I'd fucking use it. I don't really want "But I had right of way" on my headstone, while some van driver gets a £60 fine and a two month ban.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Shared paths are more dangerous to use if you're going at any speed. Motorists aren't looking for cyclists when driving over them into side roads and driveways, and cyclists lose priority at every side road.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Quite so. My city in Australia has excellent shared paths, but the one paralleling one main road is the only one where I have had a close call with a car

On that route I ride on the road so I'm seen and cars can avoid me

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're probably not looking for you whizzing up the middle of them either.

At the end of the day you're a squishy meat sack and they're in a two ton metal box, albeit in central London, one travelling at about 5 mph. If you feel safer doing that then you do you. I'm just saying I wouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Feel what you want to feel, but we have data that it's safer on the road than the "pavement" (sidewalks in the UK) and I'd rather go by data than feelings. Feeling safe is not the same as being safe.

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