Left is against the US because they are imperialist and treat Europe as vassals through unfair trade agreements and nato blackmailing. This lead to a strategy to balance international relationships by cooperating more with Russia and China, among others.

There is a big hypocrisy, because liberals don't care about dealing with dictators or not. They would mercilessly destroy a democracy if it was not capitalist and open to their national companies, and they happily deal with all dictators of the middle east and africa as long as they can get oil and other resources.

Puttin is not worse than Erdoğan, the only difference is that erdogan is supposedly in nato. Many countries in middle east are not better than Russia or China. The biggest problem with Russia is that it thought it could be a major power and made a stupid attempt to stay relevant, which propelled it into third world category with nukes.

All in all, Russia is not worse than the US. And no one in the European left support Russia since the beginning of Thame war. No one in the left actually supported puttin, even before that. That's lies, propaganda and disinformation. Love for USA is still strong with the liberals though. An unconditional love that is very much not returned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, I don't like Erdogan at all. That being said, Putin is really worse than him. Like 1000x. Also, Russia is worse than the US, like 10000x. You just have absolutely no idea how much worse it is until you actually experience it.

[–] bouh 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, now I'm not talking about local politics. The difference is indeed immense. I'm talking about international politics. And on this matter, USA is as bad the other 2.

Especially, USA is very bad even with its allies. As a European, I cannot ignore this.

And then there are all the islamist shit in the middle east that we gladly cooperate with simply because they have money and oil. We don't talk about it in France because they are as bas as putin or erdogan but they have oil and money, and we want that.

From the france point of view it's even worse because USA blackmails its otan allies to take US weapons instead of anything else, which cripples French defense industry. Talk about an ally... That's why people would like to cooperate with USA enemies: to humble the USA, because in geopolitics, that's the only way you do that. It's a power game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck France, tbh