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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I don't go through people's comment histories to try to validate them.

And there's a shocking overlap in vernacular and memes between tankies and alt-right. Obviously they're diametrically opposed on almost all issues. BUT neither really believe in good faith discussion, it's mostly trolling and "dunking". Mix in sarcasm that's not obvious to an outsider, and the jokes are hard to tell apart from misinformation or "muddying the water".

It's way more present since Hexbear federated in, every first impression is that it's an alt-right troll farm. After some interaction it gets clear quickly that it isn't.

Just expect us normies to have that first impression.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's your normie impression of what lolcatnip is actually saying?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry who is GP in this context?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lolcatnip at the top of this comment chain

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My take is that he's another normie that can't easily distinguish between trump/russia troll farms and tankies.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

BUT neither really believe in good faith discussion, it’s mostly trolling and “dunking”.

I do not like tankies but I have absolutely never experienced this, all tankies typically want to do is discuss theory and history to the point that it's exhausting. Have you talked to any Trotskyists??

It’s way more present since Hexbear federated in, every first impression is that it’s an alt-right troll farm.

I literally never got this impression, it's like extraordinarily clear that Hexbear is a leftist instance. From the pronouns in names to the leftist jokes lol.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The double sets of pronouns and neopronouns, at first glance, made it look like a satire of gender inclusivity to me.

And after some experience with them it's clear that it isn't satire, and they highly value gender inclusivity. My opinion now is that the apparent absurdity is a loyalty test. If you think fae/faer pronouns are silly, you aren't an "ally" and you are immediately identified as out-group. And the out-group, transpobes, liberals, fascists, all get lumped together so much they can't distinguish between them.

It's pretty much exactly what the right wing does. They can't distinguish between liberals, leftists, tankies, or anarchists, because it's all just "the enemy" to them.

I do not like tankies but I have absolutely never experienced this, all tankies typically want to do is discuss theory and history to the point that it's exhausting. Have you talked to any Trotskyists??

I have almost no experience with tankies tbh, so I'll be the first to say my opinions of them comes mostly from ignorance.

But so far I've heard that a "nuanced understanding of geopolitics and history" means you think "NATO made Putin do it".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You're thinking of communists or socialists. They are the ones who talk about theory and praxis.

Tankies are the "the cruelty is the point" gang - don't care about theory, workers rights, or anything else, and only use it to justify wars.