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I've noticed something about anarchists that i find pretty funny: they'll praise marxist revolutions and revolutionaries AS LONG AS they dont actually succeed. (lemmygrad.ml)

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You'll see anarchists praising Rosa Luxemburg, who if they had actually read her writings -- they would see that she was very clearly one of the "authoritarian" socialists that they rail against so much.

You see them praise the Black Panthers, who were supported financially by the DPRK and aligned themselves with the Juche ideology of Kim Il Sung.

They even praise Thomas Sankara, who purged anarchists and arrested syndicalists.

If these people had succeeded, i have no doubt in my mind that anarchists would call them "tankies," they would call their experiments "capitalism with a red flag." And I also have no doubt in my mind that if the October Revolution, Chinese Revolution had been crushed, they would hail Lenin and Mao as proletarian heroes.

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[–] mo_ztt 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed, I'd like to see it as well. Because to me, it sounds a lot like this type of smear that's common in American politics. "You gave an award one time to this POET who also advocated for BLOWING UP THIS BUILDING so clearly you support everything he said, so you're a terrorist!"

The specific assertion was that the BPP "aligned themselves with the Juche ideology of Kim Il Sung." I'm asking, is that accurate? Or did they just talk and were they both generally socialist in nature?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is it a smear? Both are groups fighting against genocidal Yankees. It makes sense for them to have solidarity with each other.

[–] mo_ztt 0 points 1 year ago

What?

They both talked about self-reliance and socialist values, but as far as I can tell, the similarity ends there.

The Panthers were fighting against very real systems of violent oppression in the US government and society, and god bless them for it. The DPRK is, in the modern day, a very real system of violent oppression. I'm not sure what they started out as back in the 1960s, but my vague impression is that even at that stage it was something pretty similar (with a bunch of rhetoric about how just was their cause). Do you know their reality back then to be something different from the reality right now?