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How so?
@Doug the right of a provider of a thing to lock it down vs the right of a consumer of a thing to unlock it
It's not a matter of locked vs unlocked. It's a matter of payment.
A website also isn't really a product. When you go to a store you see the things they want you to see. If you go to a restaurant you're greeted in the way they choose to greet you and are exposed to how they choose to decorate.
But at the core someone has to pay the bills. If you buy a product you pay for it. If you visit a website that serves ads instead of charging that's what pays those bills. If you're refusing to even see them you're handing that cost to someone else
@Doug This concern has no bearing on what happens downstream of you. The question is whether you can lock your product to gather more money to pay your bills with, and whether the person who consumes your product can unlock it meaning you don't get as much money but they get an unlocked product.
It absolutely has bearing. It's directly related to how we consider our fellow humans.
It's also not simply a question of more money. It can absolutely be a question of any money.
Is it ethical to consume a product or service put out for sale, in one method or another, to the public without paying for it?
If a local farmer sells eggs at a farmer's market would you take one and eat it? Why or why not? Does the number of eggs he has for sale change your answer? What if others are also doing so? You did say there's nothing wrong with trying to get everything for free before, didn't you?
@Doug I want to know: Does the number of eggs he has for sale change YOUR answer?
If not, then what is the difference between you (with five eggs) and Nintendo (with five million eggs)?
There's something perversely amusing, given the conversation, how you seem to expect me to answer your question without seemingly being willing to answer mine.
I'll answer, but not until you've extended the courtesy of doing so yourself with the questions you've already been asked.
@Doug you are now blocked, goodbye
And nothing of value was lost I guess