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GM said it was going to drop Apple CarPlay and Android Auto in all vehicles, and now, that includes Cadillac’s latest EV.

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[–] CharlestonChewbacca 78 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look, I'm not the target market for this anyway, and I know that. But I won't ever buy another car that doesn't have both Android Auto and Apple CarPlay. Especially now that head units aren't so simple to replace.

Like, no matter how good your software is when you release it, you're not going to have the same level of support, frequency of updates, timelines of new feature releases, and actual hardware upgrades (via my phone) I'd get from you having AA or CarPlay.

Both AA and CarPlay have gotten pretty damn good in the last few years too.

I drive a 2008 Mustang and I finally replaced my head unit a couple years ago with the Sony XAV-AX5000 and it was the best upgrade I could've possibly made to my car. I was really feeling like getting something new because I wanted modern convenience and this $350 upgrade gave me the luxury of perpetually being up to date. The only downside is that it doesn't have wireless AA, but hardly anything does.

And no, I'm not good with having just one. My last several phones have been Pixels, but my GF and my Best Friend have iPhones. I need to be able to do both seamlessly. Plus, I don't want my car locking me in to a phone OS. If apple releases an iPhone with USB-C, AoD, side loading (all of which should be in the next phone), add better UI scaling options, and they fix the back gesture, I'll want to switch and I don't want my car to keep me from doing that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree with you. CarPlay is a must have feature in 2023. I wouldn’t buy a car without a backup camera or parking sensors anymore, and I sure as hell won’t buy a car without CarPlay either. It’s such a bizarre decision by GM.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At least in the US I think backup cameras are required now. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[–] CharlestonChewbacca 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, since May 2018

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that’s true but the point stands, that’s an essential feature for a new car, as I believe CarPlay / Android Auto should be :-)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

For sure! I wasn't trying to argue against your point, I just thought it was an interesting side-note.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In Canada they are

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Especially once the next version of CarPlay is released that’ll control the full dash. It’ll make GM’s dash obsolete.

[–] CharlestonChewbacca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of backup cams. But judging by how many people are, they should absolutely be included in every vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US they are a legal requirement now. I think starting with the 2019 model year.