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[–] AbsolutelyNotABot 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but by the time that it's no longer viable the Earth will be long gone as well

But that's exactly the "problem", there's enough fertile material for potential millions of years of consumption, and that's for fission alone.

I think the debacle is more because the definition of "renewable" is a little arbitrary than the dilemma if nuclear is renewable or not

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we both agree on fertile material as discussed in another comment, the longevity issue is mostly with conventional LWRs burning up our fuel rapidly.

I'm just being pedantic about the sun, lol

[–] AbsolutelyNotABot 1 points 1 year ago

mostly with conventional LWRs burning up our fuel rapidly

Well, yes, the obvious counter argument being that, you will never build more advanced reactors on scale (some are already available), or develop new fuel cycle if you stunt the evolution process and block the technology we already have.

Imagine saying to be favourable to installing solar panels but only when they will be 100% recyclable and with efficiency close to the theorical maximum

[–] schroedingershat 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This would be relevant if any reactor had ever gotten its energy from primarily from fertile material. None have so it is not.

[–] bouh -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We would if ecologist weren't shutting down any research on this subject.

[–] schroedingershat 1 points 1 year ago

"It wouldn't have bankrupted every program that tried if you'd just let us fill every body of water with lethal levels of Pu240, Cs137 and Tc99" isn't a great counter argument.