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Hi, someone posted this on another server. I'd like to request we defederate with rammy.site and exploding-heads.com as well. I scrolled through some of their posts and comments and it's full of ridiculous anti-left propaganda, for example a post where some liberal Florida family fleeing the state when some child protection laws got passed, implying liberals abuse children and won't live in a state that doesn't allow them to. Just take a look for yourself.

" Admins of Lemmy.ml please consider defederating from rammy.site it has been taken over by right wing malicious actors from exploding-heads.com and the admin is nowhere to be found.

It is imperative that you take action as soon as possible the users on rammy are using the site to spread their messages to a further audience, we must nip this in the bud. If you don't believe me check the instance for yourself, you'll see it dominated with bigoted right wing posts and spam communities."

Edit: So many commenters think this is about political opinions or disagreement. It's not. If I said "Mixing bleach and ammonia is good for you" I bet some of you would call that a political disagreement.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I decided to see for myself so I could voice an informed opinion. One of the first posts I saw on their (EH) Local channel, titled Based Pride Month, is an image of a headline reading, Saudi Arabia Celebrate Pride Month by Hanging Gays with Rainbow Noose. This is hateful content. My ability to discern such has nothing to do with savvy. I don't want to see these opinions because they are grotesque.

However, I haven't seen ExHeads leaking out into the greater Lemmiverse. That said, I want nothing to do with anyone who considers this ok. Even if they are currently fairly contained, they have made it clear who they are and I choose not to surround myself with bigots.

I vote to defederate. We don't need to wait for them to become a huge pain in the ass. They are showing us who they are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, why don't you block it yourself? Why are you making that decision for others?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you block an instance?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I just block whole communities. I've blocked most of the shitpost communities and now my feed is clean. Plus, I just stich to "subscribed" feed most of the time. It's really easy to not see things you don't like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'd certainly like to know as well

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you think a federation is? If you don't like the decisions of an instance you go to another one. If this instance defederates from rammy.site I'm staying, if not I'm leaving. You're free to leave if they defederate too, and if you felt the need to leave because of it I'd be happy to have you gone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I simply don't understand what you gain by asking someone else to block content for you when you could simply do it yourself. You get all the benefits of not seeing the content you don't like without imposing your will onto others.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not about blocking content from my feed, it's about the instance not relaying that content. Maybe you would feel differently if it was child porn?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. I would feel different if it was child porn. However, that is completely irrelevant because that crosses a legal line. So far your only argument is that there's content there you don't like. Not that there's something there that is equivalent to child pornography. Be genuine with your arguments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I never argued there is content I don't like (although I guess that's implied, I don't like it. But I also don't like child porn?). Some of it actually is illegal, free speech has exceptions in the jurisdiction of SDF, but regardless of whether or not you believe that, I don't understand why anyone would want to remain federated with an unmoderated instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only part that you need to understand is that some people don't like it when other people make decisions for them. So, if something illegal is happening, call the police. If something you don't like is happening then you take steps you need to avoid it. For yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm asking the mods who run this server to do their jobs, are you telling me that if you're at a restaurant and they bring you the wrong food you call the police instead of asking your server to fix it? Bruh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As far as I'm concerned the job of the mods is to keep their users in line. Moderate what they do to others so that the forum doesn't get shut down. It's not their job to moderate content from other forums. If you, a user, don't want to see something in your feed, you've been given the ability to block communities you don't like. I've done it, it's not hard. It's the simplest solution that effects the least amount of people to get you what you want.

Or, go make an account somewhere else. Choose of these and go there: https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=explodingheads.com

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's nice, but you're wrong. If you run an instance it's your responsibility to defederate from servers that are distributing illegal content or content that is against your policies, because if your don't, you're re distributing that content. Legally it's the same as if you download a torrent and then seed it. I don't know if maybe you live in a different country with different laws, but SDF is located in Seattle WA. Anyway, I'm not going to engage with you further, at this point you're repeating yourself so I have to assume you're a troll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don’t like the decisions of an instance you go to another one. If this instance defederates from rammy.site I’m staying, if not I’m leaving. You’re free to leave if they defederate too, and if you felt the need to leave because of it I’d be happy to have you gone.

Please stop drawing the process out and find somewhere better suited to your preferences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Take your own advice and block me so you don't see this post?