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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

So, is the community against all cars? Or just the ones for cities? I went to LA last month to see my brother and we went to this nice area that had blocked the street off permanently and all the restaurants and businesses had taken over the road. I. Fucking. Loved. It. All the extra space was great. So in city life, I completely get it.

That being said... I am a car person. I have an MR2 turbo I love to death. I have a lifted F250 (I grew up on a farm in a small shithole town in SC. I know I'm considered bad here but eh, the Kia Sorento isn't going to pull the dump trailer or the tractor and the lift is because I'm 8 at heart and still smile driving it around) and a heavily modified Jeep Cherokee I play off-road with. Plus my daily Honda Civic. Cars have souls and driving is a sense of freedom I am addicted to. I can promise you 100% of "grown ups" (age is subjective here) with loud cars isn't to impress anyone else, it's for us. I won't even drive my MR2 at certain times to make sure I don't disturb anyone and when I'm around a populated area, I shift at low RPM and keep the noise down a lot, but away from everyone in bum fuck rural America, that exhaust note is all for me.

I get you hate cars, I even agree for the most part. But does that mean ALL cars? Am I bad here?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In my mind yes, because of environmental concerns.

[–] happy_camper 4 points 1 year ago

Me using my 1200 kg econobox to reach destinations that public transport doesn't give a hoot about is doing absolutely nothing to the planet compared to a rich person's private jet, or cobalt mining, or manufacturing and shipping all the cheap plastic stuff people buy that they don't even need from China etc.

I am all for walkable cities, I love my hometown where walking and cycling is not only possible, but infinitely better than driving. Yet I can coexist with cars in the same spaces. But I have so far seen absolutely zero viable arguments against car ownership. It's a part of our personal freedoms that's just more lucrative to take away than to fix the systematic problems of the world.

The main issue here? I'm not willing to give up my freedoms, and the rich fucks running this shitshow have no incentive to lower their profits.

This community's counterpart on reddit started out great, but it quickly transformed into an extremist echo chamber of idealists that are painfully out of touch with the real world.

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