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Is Ukraine's counteroffensive failing? Kyiv and its supporters worry about losing control of the narrative (www.nbcnews.com)

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Some U.S. officials are frustrated at the pace of Ukraine’s counteroffensive, which has gained less than 100 square miles of territory.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's an interesting product of a western world that hasnt really seen war in 70 years. It's always been far away.

We seek instant gratification, when in reality these are people's lives. It should move slowly, especially against heavily mined positions. I'm wondering if we'll see much progress until the F-16s enter the field to gain air support for the ground troops.

[–] DigitalTraveler42 3 points 1 year ago

It's their entitlement that is causing them to demand instant gratification, to people like this the war is an "inconvenience" and every additional minute they have to deal with the reality of this extremely important war it's a sign that they're not getting their gratification sated. We're all struggling and making sacrifices and the entitled among us are far less willing to participate in that struggle and make those sacrifices.

[+] [email protected] -13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instant gratification?? How about instant, decisive and meaningful support? Day 1, tanks have crossed the border and are advancing towards Kiyv? Close all borders, halt all trade, threaten to nuke Moscow unless they leave by Day 3, nuke Moscow on day 3.

Instead, the western world offers thoughts, prayers and excuses, with only occasional tanks here and there in between, months and years too late, making it worse for literally everyone. So when people that are watching Ukraine been helped just enough to save the helpers' faces, suffering through the bloodshed unfolding for a year+, and said people are not willing to normalize the shameful history page they're living through... I think it's neither fair nor productive to accuse them of seeking instant gratification.

Damn, if everybody really demanded instant gratification, democracies worked and politicians complied, we would've been talking about the war in past tense.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's almost like no one wants to start a global thermonuclear war that annihilates our species. I'm glad the actual people in charge are able to see the shades of grey you can't.