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Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

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Beehaw.org has announced they will be defederating from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works (lemmy.ca)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The post can be found here.

I find this news disconcerting coming from such a large instance so early on. Many of the criticisms of Lemmy I've been fighting against on Reddit have had to do with defederation and the possibility of getting cut off from your favorite communities on your main account. I handwaved that away as being extremely unlikely save for the exception of NSFW or extreme political content. But this news has taken me quite by surprise. Perhaps I should have seen it coming given the community Beehaw is trying to foster.

This really makes me wonder what will happen to instances that make this decision. Will their communities diminish in favor of the more accessible ones? Will this decision hurt Beehaw in the long run? What does this mean for the Fediverse in the near future when fighting against its detractors has been such an uphill battle?

Thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Does this mean that I need to run my own Lemmy to federate from all the sources I'm interested in, if I want content from beehaw and lemmy.world and a.n.other.example.org if they are not federated together?

If I do create my own, do I have to persuade those servers to accept my federation?

So much I don't understand. Wait... I think I get it: if lemmy.ca federates with all these places, I see it all and can interact with it? Are the federated/defederated lists openly available somewhere?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes! If you look at the bottom of any instance, there's an "Instances" button that will show you which instances are allowed/blocked. You shouldn't need to create your own server if you can find an instance federated to all the ones you'd like. Defederation seems to be the exception to the rule, though beehaw.org has a larger blocked list than I've seen on other instances. In their defense, some of the sites they've blocked look pretty horrible...

As for making your own instance, I'm afraid I don't know what the process is to federate with other instances...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is so cool, thank you! I would never have thought to click on any of those links

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes! Modlog is also a really useful link. It has opened my eyes to the moderating habits of different instances. I learned to keep away from lemmy.ml (all the allegations of tankies seem to be true there), but lemmy.ca (which I see you're also a member of) seems really solid. I trust /u/smorks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wow. Just Wow. So much information. These two tools tell me more about an instance than the 'blurb'.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any idea if kbin has something similar? There is a link to the Modlog, but I can't seem to find a link to an overview of the instances it federates with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried digging around for you, but I didn't have too much luck. I see their moderation log, but the most promising thing I could find for an instance list is:

Statistics -> General -> Below the statistic listing the total number of posts, there's a triangle Fediverse symbol on the left side of the screen. Clicking on that drops down an empty menu titled "Instances". I suspect that that's where you'd find the list if it were there. Perhaps Kbin hasn't implemented it yet.