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Environmental campaigners have called on the government to learn from its own successes after official figures showed the use of single-use supermarket plastic bags had fallen 98% since retailers in England began charging for them in 2015.

Annual distribution of plastic carrier bags by seven leading grocery chains plummeted from 7.6bn in 2014 to 133m last year, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) said on Monday.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

When the petrol car ban comes in, this could take care of itself as everybody finds themselves priced out of driving.

We'll need a really good public transport system to replace it, but we won't get that either because we're too poor to care about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

A lot of people are already priced out of driving. We need to be building that public transport network, along with active transport infrastructure and better land use anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

With petrol you can always get a £500 banger, run it into the ground over the next year or two and repeat.

With electric it starts at about 5000-6000, and you'll be paying £500 a year just to rent the battery. It's the batteries that are going to keep that out of reach of the poorest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@Blackmist @mondoman712
I only know of Renault leasing the battery in the Zoe.

Otherwise, the battery is part of the car and sold as part of it, with a guarantee.

I think your £500 banger has to be years older than any large number of BEVs, and will cost you more to scrap after you ture of repairing it.

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