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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Interesting. I support their right to make that decision and I'm glad that's an option in the Fediverse. I'm not sure I'd want to see that change happening if I were a member of their instance (I haven't spent enough time there to have an informed opinion about the alleged problems they cite in the post), but I suppose the strength of federation is that users can choose to move to another instance without necessarily losing access to Beehaw's content. I wonder how this will play out among their userbase?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm a Beehaw member; also a kbin member, but I wasn't able to get on here until tonight because it had been so laggy a few days ago that I'd given kbin up as unusable. To answer your question, I don't like it but I do understand it. It sounds from what they've said that they basically had no choice; they were overwhelmed.

That said, I'm now VERY glad that I have a kbin account. I just re-created my subscription list (including magazines from both of the banned instances) here. I just hope kbin isn't going to ban them too?

And just in case anyone is wondering: I expect to keep using both Beehaw and kbin (and my other Fediverse accounts, for that matter; I'm on Mastodon, BookWyrm, and Paper.wf). It's nice to have a low-stress refuge like Beehaw sometimes But I want to be able to access the whole wide world when I choose, too!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just hope kbin isn't going to ban them too?

I think it's more likely that beehaw.org is going to defederate kbin.social as well

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I don't give a week before bee defederate kbin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Thanks for writing about this I saw your recent post as well, these changes are interesting and I can only imagine we're going to see more changes in the future. It seems you're posting from @[email protected], but that's the great thing about it, you could just have easily posted from @[email protected]. 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you don't mind, would you explain why you have bookwyrm and paper.wf since you have mastodon?

What makes those different in your experience? (just looking them up didn't give me much of a real feel.) I have mastodon and kbin right now since they're both different.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

It's easiest to compared them to their non-fedi equivalents.
Twitter (Mastodon), Goodreads (Bookwyrm) and Medium (Write Freely) offer users different experiences, UI's and tools.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I never really cottoned to Mastodon, possibly for the same reasons I never took to Twitter. Perhaps I'm just too much of a chatterbox to accept their post length limitations. 😆

Bookwyrm is outstanding for book reviews, and it allowed me to import the CSV of my reviews from GoodReads. If Mastodon can do that, I wasn't aware of it.

Paper.wf was recommended to me as a Fediverse boxing site. Mastodon is too short-form for me. Beehaw doesn't seem to have a personal blog as an option. BookWyrm, oddly enough, does - and I just discovered that I can see my BookWyrm blog (called "Direct Messages" there, which really doesn't make sense) from kbin. I have no idea how that works, since my accounts are separate.

Paper.wf is elegant, but seemingly skimpy on features, though. Currently I can't figure out how to find other blogs there or follow them, and as far as I can tell there's no way for anybody to comment on blog entries there. If anyone wants to check out my blog there, here it is. Maybe you can tell me how to comment on entries!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

the admin here hasn't made any mention of blocking instances. and something tells me he's not interested in doing so. so for kbin's side of things it's probably fine. but we might get blocked by beehaw as well. I doubt kbin will block lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Most support it, although not all. They’ve been clear ask asking that they were trying to build a well-moderated space so it aligns With why most people are there - saw one person say that their first post had been hit by right-wing trolls from one of those instances, so if that’s happening then defederation makes sense.