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As for now, upvotes, downvotes and boosts are public on kbin (kbin.social)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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On every thread or post, if you click on more and activity, you'll get the info.

I personally find this to be a good things, I've seen people using downvote way too easily. I like the idea that we need to be somehow accountable for those mechanism.

edit: It could be somehow improved to have an option to let this info only available between concerned users.

edit edit: I think that up/downvote info shouldn't be public, but kept private between the users involved. we need to address this privacy issue.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see anywhere in the lemmy UI where you can see votes, but I'm sure there's ways to get the votes through the API.
So maybe the solution is don't worry about votes being technically public but hide them from the UI, but I don't think even that solution is required.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I'm sure Reddit tracked who voted on what behind the scenes too, sites have to or else you can just vote multiple times on multiple devices/apps/browsers. I'm not worried about that really, since it's unavoidable. Making them public is my issue.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the point is for the votes to be federated, the instance has to know who has actually voted. The issue being that information is then on the instance the post is hosting, and due to how posts propagate, there's nothing stopping another instance putting who voted on what front and center, and just pulling that data from the host instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I see the point there. That a new instance with a different UI could put them up.

I'm certainly no tech expert, but if it's about the API, then how did third-party Reddit apps work with it? The votes definitely synced between different versions of Reddit, could a third-party Reddit app have been made that showed votes publicly? If not, what was the system behind that, and could it work here? Again, no idea, there may be a very good reason why what I'm thinking wouldn't work, but I dunno what it would be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm far from an expert on this sort of thing, but I would wager that the only voting data available through Reddit's API is the current number of up and downvotes, the overall vote score, and whether the account requesting the information has up or down voted, for any given post / comment.
It can do that because the data is centralised, and every account exists in one place, whereas federation has to say "[email protected] upvoted this comment, and so did [email protected]", because there's nowhere to store that data centrally, other than the post itself.