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What is wrong with m/antiwoke? I see only two submissions, and neither come close to breaking any rules. Do you want Ernest to ban stuff just because you don't like it? Just don't go there. You can even block the magazine. Problem solved.
It's difficult to tell if your outlook really lacks any nuance, or if you're just pretending to not understand.
Imagine if there was a /m/slaveryshouldbelegal. Would it matter what posts were in that magazine in any given point in time?
The way "antiwoke" is used colloquially leaves no doubt as to the path that magazine intends to walk down. I, for one, would rather take proactive action against it than reactive action later on. And making it not my problem by blocking it only lets it fester.
Edit: And surprise, surprise-- the same user made both.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Regardless of what it's called, I don't think censorship is the answer. If they become aggressive then you can block them, your beliefs should not define everyone else's experience. Truth and realness bubble to the top if you let it. We have downvotes and upvotes for that. Forcing people through your rigid idea of utopia just leads to larger and larger groups of people you have deemed unacceptable and separate, and therefore easy to become enemies with. I don't want insular echo chambers. I want to think and feel and be human and grow. You don't grow if you aren't challenged.
Bigotry isn't just academic-- it can have real-life effects on the people it is aimed towards, regardless of how many fake internet points it has or does not have.
The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines Bigotry as "obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices : the state of mind of a bigot". How is the firm belief that someone is wrong and should be censored based on... just one's own opinions and prejudices not bigotry then?
Another thing that bothers me is how Marxist, Stalinist, and Maoist communities are considered absolutely fine but opposing ideologies are automatically considered bigoted. Why is that?
This reply is not meant as an attack. I'm all for expression and freedom of speech and am genuinely curious, who decides what is punishable bigotry and what is not.
Did you really just "people against bigotry are the real bigots" me? Haha
Did you just paraphrase me wrongly to make fun of me and invalidate my point?
No.
How?
How what? "No" I didn't paraphrase you wrongly. You really are saying that being against bigotry is bigotry. A sophomoric stance often used to argue that all bigotry should be allowed.
I can only imagine why someone would want more bigotry on any given site.
You did paraphrase me wrongly as I've said none of those things.
I asked a question. You put words into my mouth and painted me as a villain.
If anything, you are being completely dishonest and malicious and this conversation is going nowhere.
"I'm just asking questions, bro!" haha
You're becoming increasingly transparent.
And you are being just as dishonest and even more malicious.
I don't want to hang out with those folks, and I don't want to hang out with people who do want to hang out with those folks.
So you want this whole instance to mirror your personal values and opinions? That sounds like a great way to create an echo chamber. I hope Ernest doesn't want to that.