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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by jocanib to c/fediverse
 

"After my last long post, I got into some frustrating conversations, among them one in which an open-source guy repeatedly scoffed at the idea of being able to learn anything useful from people on other, less ideologically correct networks. Instead of telling him to go fuck himself, I went to talk to about fedi experiences with people on the very impure Bluesky, where I had seen people casually talking about Mastodon being confusing and weird.

"My purpose in gathering this informal, conversational feedback is to bring voices into the “how should Mastodon be” conversation that don’t otherwise get much attention—which I do because I hope it will help designers and developers and community leaders who genuinely want Mastodon to work for more kinds of people refine their understanding of the problem space."

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In my humble opinion, a twitter-like platform needs a big central algorithm that can associate posts with certain topics and interests to be able to serve up an interesting feed, because most people are just kind of shouting into the void and that endless storm of posts has to be filtered and organized somehow, otherwise everything you see is just benign uninteresting garbage. Lemmy/Kbin have the advantage that by nature all posts are neatly sorted into topic-based communities, and it's a lot easier to subscribe to the stuff you find interesting, and block the stuff you don't like.

[–] petunia 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a twitter-like platform needs a big central algorithm that can associate posts with certain topics and interests to be able to serve up an interesting feed

I grew up on Tumblr and it thrived for the longest time with a chronological timeline.

most people are just kind of shouting into the void and that endless storm of posts has to be filtered and organized somehow

Yes, it was done through tagging. Notably, tags in Tumblr didn't have to be inline.

Tagging died on Twitter because the inscrutable blackbox of the algorithm made people unsure if tags actually improved the visibility of their posts or not, there's some folk-wisdom that suggests excessive tagging leads to deboosting of your profile, since it could have been considered spammy. Also, there's only so many characters in a Twitter post and sometimes there's just not enough left for relevant tags.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well that's easy, just add tags to your toot and everything is dandy. No need for an algorithm.

[–] DarienGS 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Brilliant! You've made one post findable!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because nobody tags their toots on mastodon, huh? And you can't follow tags either. Very strange service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

yes you can, my comment as a futile attempt at sarcasm.