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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's funny because there's this function on Epic where you can enter a code and it claims a game on it... Oh and will you look at that, they have something called Mod Interface... It's as if you didn't know what you're talking about...

Heck, I give you an example of Steam manipulating prices, which goes against consumer interests, and you just skip right over that, funny how that works, right? How about developers interests then? 30% cut vs 17%? No guaranteed income for devs vs exclusivity contracts that guarantees an income to small devs thus making sure they actually stay in business?

What's funny is that you're exactly the same as all the people who were complaining about Steam when it came out and that vowed to boycott it forever.

Your loss bud, I've got thousands worth of free games (the vast majority DRM free) while you're in your corner bitching and wanting the industry centralized in Valve's hands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve got thousands worth of free games

So what's the developer's cut on a game you got for free? Or are you not nearly as concerned about developers as you pretend to be for the sake of your argument?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They get money from every install of the games and an amount agreed upon beforehand. Epic is using what they would have spent on marketing to give free games, the CEO explained it in an interview.

Do you really think devs would let Epic give their game away for free without getting anything in return? You realize that would be illegal, right?

Freaking hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Epic CEO Tim Sweeney previously revealed that the company pays a flat fee to each developer to give away their games, rather than paying per download.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22418782/epic-games-store-free-games-cost-apple-trial-arkham-subnautica-mutant-year-zero

Your download doesn't give the developer any money. The fee is already paid. The Developer gets just as much from you if you pirate their game, or more if you go purchase it on a different platform instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s funny because there’s this function on Epic where you can enter a code and it claims a game on it… Oh and will you look at that, they have something called Mod Interface… It’s as if you didn’t know what you’re talking about…

How many games support those mods and how many mod makers publish their mods to Epic over steam?

Heck, I give you an example of Steam manipulating prices, which goes against consumer interests, and you just skip right over that, funny how that works, right? How about developers interests then? 30% cut vs 17%? No guaranteed income for devs vs exclusivity contracts that guarantees an income to small devs thus making sure they actually stay in business?

They don't have to sell on Steam. PC is an open game platform where you can install software from any source and run it. If I was a store I wouldn't want stuff being sold elsewhere for less, sell it there then, I don't wanna have to sell it for more, you sell it for more. I love the switch from publishers to developers here as if there is any trickle down. Fuck the publishers that never share any of the money with the developers anyway. Next you'll tell me Epic doesn't treat their devs like shit making them work loads of mandatory crunch.

I hope so, you seem to know some funny people.

It sure is, maybe you should go play those free games instead of simping for a multi-billion dollar company that treats the poor devs you just want to get paid like shit.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As if you're not simping for a multi billion dollar company with shitty practices yourself 🙄

How many games support those mods and how many mod makers publish their mods to Epic over steam?

Moving the goalpost are we?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not making Valve out to be better than they are, you've never said I am wrong about any of my claims for what Steam does. This means on some level you recognize that Steam is a capable system. That it does have linux support, big picture, remote play, workshop, cards, points for avatars/profile stuff, and it's on economy for items. You'll drop points left and right like you stopped talking about Steam being a monopoly despite having less dominance than Windows. Yet EGS only really works natively in Windows. Valve is no shit one of the biggest players in challenging Windows as a monopoly through the Steam Deck and why Linux moved to 3% of the userbase.

Not moving the goal post as much as talking about how it realistically works while you conflate existence with availability. You can tell me it has mods but if it doesn't have mods like the workshop it doesn't REALLY have mods. That's like saying American's have healthcare when we both know there are a few asterisks involved with that statement.