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I've been trying to post fairly often to this community in an attempt to keep it active, but I'm still trying to figure out what type of posts people want to see here. News? Recommendations? Discussions? Artwork? One thing I've been debating is whether people would be annoyed by seeing memes here.

I'm guessing if you found this community you already know what cyberpunk is. I don't need to make any "have you guys seen Ghost in the Shell??" posts. But does that also mean this community wants to keep things serious and only debate obscure cyberpunk media?

I can keep posting random nonsense, I'm just not sure if there's anything I should avoid posting. For example, aside from memes, does anyone want to see recommendations for cyberpunk music? Music is very subjective/personal so I don't know how many people would appreciate my taste in music.

I'm kinda leaning towards "any post is a good post" since we're still growing and I just want activity. But at the same time, there are definitely pictures from r/cyberpunk that I'm sick of seeing. Like the stupid R.U. a cyberpunk? picture from 1993.

Let me know your thoughts.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would love a Solarpunk Crossover from time to time. I think both genres can support each other in a great way.

Some rpg content would be amazing to have, because the cyberpunk 2020 rpg has probably the most in depth world building out of every cyber to ever punk

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'd love to explore the borders of cyberpunk/solarpunk. I've been thinking a lot about that lately as I've been working on a little series of comics that's not quite solarpunk - not enough interest in solutions, I suppose. Rural cyberpunk with environmental rage? I've been keeping an eye on fediverse cyberpunk spaces because I don't think it'll fit well on slrpnk.net (and also because I want to join any as they form). I think I've tried to subscribe to three different ones at this point but this one seems active and I like that they're having these kinds of conversations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I hope this community stays somewhat active, even without memes.

What are your thoughts on disneys solar punk movie?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen it but have heard good things

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who spends way too much time consuming cyberpunk content, I don't see the appeal of solarpunk as a genre. It feels like a "solution", the "goal", not a genre in itself. Although I'm only aware of solarpunk when it's the happy ending. For example, the movie 2067 starts out as a cyberpunk movie, and then through the wackiness of time travel, ends with a closing shot of a solarpunk world (it's on Hulu and Hoopla if you care to watch it). I thought one of solarpunk's defining characteristics was its lack of strife. Maybe I'm wrong though, I admittedly don't know much about solarpunk.

Now, rural cyberpunk with environmental rage makes sense to me. But I wouldn't consider that solarpunk. Things like Hardwired and Irreconcilable Differences are cyberpunk but take place in rural areas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As a newcomer to the Solarpunk genre, I'll say I don't think it's utopian or without conflict. (In fiction at least, the green cityscape pictures everyone posts do seem to be). The fiction I've read tends to be about coping with disaster, picking up the pieces, learning what lessons we can, and trying to fix things or at least mitigate further damage. There's often a bit of postapoclyptia mixed in, but with more of a focus on (re)building community and helping each other, rather than the themes of ruthless individualism and all humans being bastards that show up more in post-apocalyptic stories. There's plenty of room for conflict in there, along with examinations of how our society is built and whether we could do things differently. It's very much a genre for the moment, when so many warnings have been ignored and it's tempting to just kind of give up.

I think that's kind of the difference: that if cyberpunk is often built around warnings (about corporations, technologies, the way humans will exploit them / each other) solarpunk seems to be trying to offer solutions as well. I think there's a space for that in fiction - so much of what is invented seems to be shaped by the fiction that inspires us, the logic goes, so if we only fill that space with warnings, we'll just end up with tech billionaires building torment nexuses because they missed the point. I will say that I've found solarpunk to be much harder to write, personally, and that my own fiction diet is much heavier on cyberpunk and military scifi than on solarpunk stuff.

From what I've seen, solarpunk seems new, far-less-defined, and often blended with other genres. (I'd say The Terraformers, which has been excellent so far, has some deep cyberpunk vibes, corporations as states, living people and their planets as products, but it's kind of in the background to a fight over land rights and how the main characters' planet is exploited). I think genre can often be determined by which part of a setting we happen to be looking at. I also think stories that solarpunk claims can fit under other labels just as well.

I don't know if any of that was helpful or interesting, but I hope it was.

I actually really dig rural cyberpunk, probably because I'm from a pretty rural area and it looks so natural to me. Bits of Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive, and I think some of his other stories spend some time in those spaces, though not all of them are springing to mind at the moment. I think I'd even count Looper, some of the shots in there are great.

I'll definitely check out 2067 - big fan of time travel movies.