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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

👏 Make 👏 ALL 👏 connections 👏 Symmetrical 👏

[–] mrbiiggy 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only it were easy to do. Technical limitations on copper is what causes low upload speeds. ISP’s prioritize the download speed, which is what people utilize the most. As fiber continues to be rolled out it should get better though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell that to our beautiful German Telekom who'll sell you 1000down/200up FTTH for ridiculous 80€/month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fuck telekom, i can't wait to switch to fiber

[–] jake_jake_jake_ 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some service-provider level technology is not symmetrical at the access layer. An ISP serving exclusively fiber may have values like below:

GPON (GIGAbit passive optical network): 1.24416 Gigabits/s up, 2.48832 Gigabits/s down

XG-PON (10 gigabit passive optical network): 10G/2.5G

xgS-pon (10g Symmetrical optical network): 10g/10g

Note that on all of these technologies, you are also sharing bandwidth with neighbors on your PON. Sometimes up to 64 subs on one gpon. I think 128 on xgs-pon Until more providers make fiber available, as well as are willing to fork more up for the latest equipment, and reduce the over subscriptions of pons, symmetrical services for everyone just won’t happen.

Will this ever happen at mega providers / baby-bells? Probably never unless a regional or startup pops up, and then they will only attempt compete in that market.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't mind a ratio like those for just regular home Internet, but right now I get gigabit down but only 20 megabit up. 1/50th.

[–] jake_jake_jake_ 1 points 1 year ago

yeah that's garbage, we just started rolling 2.5/500 in certain xgs-pon areas. i think minimum now (for fiber, we still have vdsl/adsl) is 500/50. i don't sell any of it just work on the technical side.

[–] kratoz29 0 points 1 year ago

It is pretty dumb to me that symmetrical is not the standard way.