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[–] [email protected] 180 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If only Firefox would have a bigger userbase. I still use it, but the vast majority of people is on Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched this week.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'm switching today. Right now. Because of this post.

^^maybe
EDIT: okay. I think I've done it. I'm currently editing this comment from Firefox. I already had Firefox installed. But now I have pinned it to my taskbar. I went to import my bookmarks from chrome, and found that I also had the option of importing other stuff from chrome, too (bookmarks, passwords, history and autofill data). That's sweet. My bookmark bar has the same bookmarks in the same position. I also installed ublock origin, like someone recommended. And I am going to give it a go. If it all goes smoothly, I will unpin Chrome from the taskbar.

Thanks everyone for the encouragement!

[–] Wootz 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Install ublock origin and open YouTube.

You won't regret it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DONE!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fantastic. Also, just so you don't have all that "YoU hAvE tHrEe ViDeOs LeFt" BS copy paste this to the "my filters" tab (go to about:addons, click on uBlock, there dots, "preferences", then "my filters") and you should be good to go:

youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false)

youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0)

youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, [])

youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)

Also here is another that blocks shorts entirely:

www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer,ytd-rich-item-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="trending"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-shelf-renderer[is-shorts]
www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer
m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer
m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer,ytm-video-with-context-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)
youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row, #contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display:contents !important;)

AND REMEMBER TO CLICK "APPLY CHANGES" BEFORE LEAVING!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And I'm just gonna drop this right here for those who use Twitch

For the first step: Click the Extensions button (puzzle piece icon) on the right side of the toolbar next to the main hamburger menu > right-click uBlock Origin from the drop-down > "Manage extension"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'll cost you nothing at all.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And in fact will save you CPU cycles. For a bit, Chrome had a slight performance edge over Firefox. But once Google got the market share, Firefox caught up and got ahead, and Chrome didn't invest in keeping up, so Firefox is generally faster. The only exception is a few sites (especially Google ones) seem to be heavily optimised for Chrome, but not necessarily as much for Firefox. If you stay away from those sites, Firefox is generally faster.

Plus Chromium is increasingly becoming more hostile to efficient ad blocking add-on implementations - so if you want to block ads (generally recommended due to ad networks doubling as paid malware distribution networks), Firefox or other Gecko-based browsers are generally the best bet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait can you elaborate on that a little bit? Back in the days, Chrome was a resource hog which made me switch to Firefox for a few years. Then I tried a bunch of different browsers and found that my Firefox couldn't keep up with the performance of Chromium-based browsers, which made me switch to Edge. But now, Firefox has better performance again?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It ebbs and flows over time. All browsers will be attempting to improve performance, but at the same time adding features. More features often impact performance negatively.

Most normal pages are apparently faster in Firefox right now, but Google might make an optimisation effort in chromium that might make Firefox comparatively slower.

The main pages that are still slower in Firefox are Google sites. Google has repeatedly made things on their pages that unfairly favor Chrome. For example at one point they added an invisible frame that had no functionality over the video player on YouTube. They obviously made optimisations in chrome at the same time so they wouldn't be affected, but Firefox' hardware acceleration of videos broke, because the video now had additional items over top that it needed to custom handle. This gave chrome a massive performance edge on YouTube, until Firefox started ignoring completely invisible overlays of videos, just like Chrome did

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

No maybes. Do it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Please switch

[–] rockSlayer 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it would help with the transition, Firefox has a first time install option to move over all of your bookmarks. A super cool reason to have a firefox account is the ability to transfer a tab from one device to another. Best part is that Firefox isn't profit motivated like Chrome so there's much less bullshit to deal with

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I've done it!

I found out you can import not only bookmarks from Chrome, but also passwords, history and autofill data!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Firefox is awesome now. It was great, then it lost out a bit to chrome, but it’s back to being awesome. If anyone’s reading this and isn’t using Firefox, please switch!

And importantly, their import mechanisms are great. A typical user can switch with basically no effort. Next time they ask you for help, switch your parents too, and your siblings, and that neighbour who keeps referring to the internet as “the google”. Set them up with Firefox and ublock origin and they’ll be set.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's back to being awesome

What changed?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The person you replied to was mistaken. Firefox isn't "back to" being awesome because it never stopped being so.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well... there is a reason why so many folks sswitched to Chrome. Especially back when Chrome was new, Firefox just felt sluggish and slow. Chrome was a new breeze.

It took Firefox a long time to catch up. I've been trying semi regularly and just 3 years ago it was "okayish". Tried it a few days ago again and switched all my devices over.

I don't know what happened, but I installed it and it just felt snappy and fast. Apart from having some awesome features. Luckily if you don't really keep bookmarks and such, switching isn't that hard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

At least with Firefox Quantum (v57) they have tried to continuously bring in optimizations to bump the performance. In the meantime there has been lots of work with WebRender, a newer and more robust Javascript Engine and better CSS engine which made it get faster every update. Being quite fast and snappy isn't just a placebo since Firefox has lately started to get better Speedometer scores than Chrome

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's back to being awesome

What changed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Depends on what you mean by "when". From my POV for the last few years, it has an amazing plugin ecosystem (almost complete interoperability with Chrome's), a revamped/minimal UI, performance optimizations, a better DX for web devs than Chrome, and an active R&D (Firefox View, new plugins button, better personalization, etc). I'm missing a few things but those are the ones that stand out to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I use firefox as my sidearm browser on my work computer, but I literally just made it the default on my personal computer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd solely use Firefox if jetbrains had better JS debugging support for it.

So for now I use edge for that at work.

Also I really like the tab sleep and vertical tabs features on Edge.

But everything is Firefox on my personal machines