this post was submitted on 24 Jul 2023
81 points (93.5% liked)

Technology

35148 readers
133 users here now

This is the official technology community of Lemmy.ml for all news related to creation and use of technology, and to facilitate civil, meaningful discussion around it.


Ask in DM before posting product reviews or ads. All such posts otherwise are subject to removal.


Rules:

1: All Lemmy rules apply

2: Do not post low effort posts

3: NEVER post naziped*gore stuff

4: Always post article URLs or their archived version URLs as sources, NOT screenshots. Help the blind users.

5: personal rants of Big Tech CEOs like Elon Musk are unwelcome (does not include posts about their companies affecting wide range of people)

6: no advertisement posts unless verified as legitimate and non-exploitative/non-consumerist

7: crypto related posts, unless essential, are disallowed

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

How much do you pay? How fast are your your real world speeds? Where are you located?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ok so strap in...

It started with splurging on gigabit pro, the obscure fiber service they will only sell if you call a special number, have a back and forth with a small property manager, and wait for them to check your proximity to fiber and get approval from their finance department on top of a $1000 install fee (discountable to $500). Once I had gigabit pro (6 months and several approvals later), things got started as a result of repeatedly humoring the comcast salespeople every time they called to try to upsell me to cable TV. Since none of the residential salespeople were familiar with gigabit pro, which is installed and managed by the business side "metro-e" division of comcast, they were always shocked to see I was being billed $150/mo and assured me they could get me TV bundled and reduce my price (gigabit pro is often discounted so I was getting 2 years at 50% off the standard $300/mo price, I was actually planning on cancelling as soon as that ran out because there would also be an early cancellation fee). They would spend like an hour trying and failing to get the billing system to bundle in TV because I assume the residential billing system is probably only set up to bundle TV with residential high frequency cable internet packages. Eventually they would give up and tell me they would reach back out. Sometime later, I would get another sales call from someone else offering a TV bundle and the whole thing would repeat again.

I think I spent a total of 6 hours on the phone across several occasions spanning a month or more (always multitasking of course on these calls while they went in circles) just being entertained that they couldn't figure it out when one day the salesperson got their manager to override the billing system and they re-entered my plan from scratch. Every step of the way I told them I was happy with my speed (I was hoping that way they wouldn't notice I was managed by the metro-e team) and would only agree to bundle if they also dropped the 2 year contract I was in, and they agreed. So when they re-entered my plan, they erroneously entered in regular gigabit service. Since there would be no speed change I guess they didn't even look at the modem provisioning let alone notice that my "modem" was listed as the Juniper fiber switch that is normally rented out for fiber service.

Later I cancelled the TV part of the plan and was just left with the gig pro fiber service while my internet bill went down to the normal gig price. Not being completely satisfied I later called a few more times trying to negotiate my bill even lower. When I finally succeeded at negotiating my bill a few more dollars lower over live chat support, they made the mistake of sending me an xfinity combo modem/router self install kit - maybe because I didn't have a modem attached to my account that the system understood. I decided to just try to activate it and see what would happen, surprisingly I was able to activate it on my account while the fiber service was still active. I took advantage of having an actual returnable modem and swapped it out with a purchased modem to get rid of the modem rental fee which I was originally made to pay for the fiber switch, which further lowered my bill. So to this day I have 2gig symmetric SFP+ with an additional 1gig symmetric rj45 powered by fiber as well as the standard cable modem with an additional 1gig non-symmetric connection for a total of 4 gigabit download and 3.035gig upload.

To top that all off for several years I gave 1 gig out of the 4 that I now have combined to our neighbors through a moca adapter so for a large portion of my time here I have only paid $40/mo split with 4 total roommates, so my monthly portion would be $10/mo

TL;DR: I splurged like a $500 install fee to get gigabit pro which is super obscure and took 6 months to get all the approvals, then I kept interacting with customer support and salespeople while taking advantage of their confusion and the fact that the residential folks don't interface with the business fiber / metro-e folks to reduce my bill by tricking them into billing me standard residential price with a TV bundle that the salespeople REALLY want to sell you on, then I continued haggling for a few more dollars off resulting in them sending me a normal modem, which I set up and immediately swapped out with my own modem for even more money off. I also ended up splitting this extremely haggled bill with our neighbors (in addition to roommates) so my monthly portion has ended up being $10 since these 4 gigabits are split among 9 people who combined rarely even exceed 1 gig.

[–] AlecSadler 3 points 1 year ago

That's awesome!

I had a similar but not really experience with one of my businesses where they messed up and I basically got business gigabit and four TVs and sports for something ridiculously low (business wise) of like $120/mo.

I later needed to add a TV and the rep put me on hold and then came back and said something to the effect of, "Here's the deal... apparently we messed up your contract so your current price is locked in for 2 years. If you add this, we have to redo it, and it will go up to $450/mo. I would suggest you don't add a TV."

So I didn't. I bought a $12 adapter off Amazon and just split the cable line instead.

[–] InverseParallax 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What... the fuck...

I expected a curious story about how elves enchanted your modem and now you feared to gaze upon it lest the spell be broken, not this fucking necronomicon vs the infinity stones shit.

I'm just lost, you broke the matrix, I can't begin to figure this out.

Going to at least ask about gigabit pro, live in silicon valley, used to work at google, can't get fucking fiber to save my life, it's like a greek tragedy, but you have given me the courage to try again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha I'm glad you found it inspiring - I only ever intended for it to be a temporary exercise in overkill networks but I love squeezing ISPs for what they're worth and I just kept getting lucky.

Beware that getting multi gig wan is a very good excuse to overkill your network with 10gig firewalls, switches, and the latest bleeding edge draft-standard-based wifi gear, on the plus side you will always have a retort when someone online says you could never need mgig home gear because surely your wan can't be more than a gig anyway.

[–] InverseParallax 2 points 1 year ago

I'm at 10g internal for what matters, with a unifi dream machine, so 10g firewall could work, my limiting factor has always been that fucking uplink :(

Visiting a rural island off the coast of sweden in a few weeks. Better fiber for cheaper. Than down the street from fucking google.

Oh fuck you so much comcast. Bless you sir, blessings upon you and your house.