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Yeah, you're caught up, disappointment all around.
Skrulls needed more build-up before SI so they could both flesh out the threat and give you more in them to identify with so you cared. Now we have a Fury who we haven't seen for a while, a race of shapeshifters who are... fine? Convenient? Comic relief? I get why they want earth, but it's rude to take other peoples' stuff, and Fury is clearly old. Gravik kills everybody, even his own people for the slightest suspicion but several details leak to Talos and he doesn't deal with his daughter immediately?
This whole thing seems stream of consciousness, like it was actually written by AI. They had Martin Freeman, who they wasted utterly and alienated us with his death, they had Hill, who they wasted utterly and alienated us with her death, they had Talos who they alienated us with his death. Waiting for Rhodey and Fury to die right now. And they weren't good deaths either, none of them. This whole thing just reminds me of the new indiana jones movies where it's clear Ford is checked out, and it's visibly painful for him to try to run, but we wanted an Indiana Jones story, so here it is, suck it up.
Marvel: Don't try to make psychopath villains if you don't do build-up in previous work, it makes them seem like an empty threat of the week, we lose investment, this threat is somewhat nebulous (war will break out? We've had war before, Fury can tell the avengers and have them stop it if it comes to that), and while Skrulls have been mild fun in the past, that was literally just Talos and Ben Mendelsohn, the rest of them really don't register to us much.
Technically, Martin Freeman alienated himself by dying ๐๐๐
In post-soviet russia, skrulls alienate YOU!
Couldn't agree more. We basically only even know of the Skrulls from Captain Marvel, and that took place almost 3 decades ago in MCU time. They just haven't been a thing to care about. That really feels like one of the big problems in the MCU now. They did such great build up of characters pre-Infinity War, but now they're just throwing things in with no build up.
IW took a decade of almost painfully slow buildup, but it paid off phenomenally.
We've all been marvel-ed out since then, it's so hard to really care about villains of the week, and gravik is barely one of those. He needed more play in far from home or somewhere, not just random_skrull_09, and none of his individual threats have really seemed impactful.
This is so unimaginative, they've done better, loki for instance, this feels like it belonged on Netflix back in 2014, and we've moved on from that.
The MCU has been my "Star Wars", but now getting this fatigue and seeing all the disappointment makes me sad. I guess not unlike Star Wars, heh.
Iw/Endgame was incredible, but it was like coitus after 10 years of steady and intense edging.
They need 1-2 phases for everyone to relax so they can start slowly building again, otherwise it won't work.
But they did a phenomenal job up till Endgame, should have been called avengers: long game.