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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they're using "communism" to control the people, then they're not really using communism

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is true Communism even possible if it's being attempted by flawed humans? Seems like it doesn't matter the economic system so much as the fact that people will ruin anything given enough time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s about incentives. Worker oppression in Monarchy requires a bad King, in Feudalism bad lords, in Capitalism bad shareholders, and in Socialism self-hating workers. If you shared your workplace, would you push to remove your rights? Or to screw over your customers? And then argue for that against everyone else you share power with? The incentives are plainly better in a worker owned economy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@tara @Sharkwellington, agree, it is precisely one of the many reasons why I use Vivaldi, it is from a European cooperative, owned by it's employees and without external investors who can influence in it's decisions. Company ethics are important.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Do you want to know what's not controlled by a company at all, doesn't give google a monopoly in web browsers (google "chromium" in a search engine like libreX or searxng), respects you freedom through a foss license? Librewolf

Better than Vivaldi could ever be

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Respectfully, I can easily see a shared workplace at least encouraging screwing over customers. To me its an even more intense instance of the shareholder problem. Shareholders are obsessed with the money they're getting back with no real work but the risk inherent in the bet they made. The workers are working, for a livelihood, and of course will want to improve their quality of life. They're even more motivated to do so. And some of the best ways to do that, in the "make monkey brain happy" obvious short-term are the same policies the shareholders are already pushing. Will there be some pushback? Definitely, but you only have to sell a bunch of people on short-term easy money. And the lottery isn't popular because people are smart about this stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, like we've done with capitalism

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

"That wasn't real communism" eh? First time I've ever seen this one..