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Help to improve the OpenStreetMap with StreetComplete!

This app finds incomplete and extendable data in your vicinity and displays it on a map as markers. Each of those is solvable by answering a simple question to complete the info on site.

The info you enter is then directly added to the OpenStreetMap in your name, without the need to use another editor.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why does fdroid say that it promotes or depends on non-free networkl service?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

f-droid defines it as

Non-Free Network Services

This Anti-Feature is applied to apps that promote or depend entirely on a Non-Free network service which is impossible, or not easy to replace. Replacement requires changes to the app or service. This antifeature would not apply, if there is a simple configuration option that allows pointing the app to a running instance of an alternative, publicly available, self-hostable, free software server solution.

Here’s the list of apps with Non-Free Network Services.

https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/#NonFreeNet

[–] bonnetbee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I asked the developer Tobias Zwick the exact same question. His reply (in german, can anyone summarize it in english?):

gemeint ist damit vor Allem jawg.io, das ist der komerzielle Anbieter/Clouddienst über den die Basiskarte ausgespielt wird. Diese Karte basiert zwar zu 100% auf OpenStreetMap-Daten, aber der Service selbst ist nicht frei. Die OpenStreetMap Foundation bietet selbst keinen Vektor-Kachel-Dienst an, auch nicht für OpenStreetMap Editoren etc.

Zusätzlich dazu würde die App zurzeit auch ohne jawg.io das NonFreeNet-Flag bekommen, aber das liegt vor Allem daran, dass F-Droid zurzeit die Benutzung jeglichen in der App hardkodierten Netzwerkdienst, ob Open Source oder nicht, als NonFreeNet flaggt. Also zum Beispiel auch für die Nutzung von api.openstreetmap.org 🤔

Die F-Droid Leute diskutieren aber (seit langem) darüber, für nicht in der App änderbare Netzwerkdienste ein neues Anti-Feature Flag einführen, soetwas wie SiloedNet oder so, um die Definition von NonFreeNet nicht derart zu verwässern.Denn, ja... zurzeit ist finde ich NonFreeNet ziemlich nichtssagend. Ein Wikipedia-Reader zum Beispiel bekommt den Flag auch.

I thought it was awesome he took the time to answer in such detail and startet support him on liberapay: Tobias Zwick

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Somewhat shortened translation:

This mainly refers to jawg.io, the commercial cloud service that serves the basic map. The map itself is 100% OSM data, but the service isn't free. OSM themselves don't offer a vector tile server, not even for editors.

Also, F-Droid gives every app with a hard-coded network dependency the NonFreeNet flag, including e.g. api.openstreetmap.org.

They're discussing a new anti-feature like SiloedNet for such cases, because at the moment NonFreeNet is pretty useless, e.g. a Wikipedia reader gets that flag too.

[–] bonnetbee 1 points 1 year ago

Perfect, thank you!