It always comes from the "nice guys" type. But it is also commonly said on TV that women love douchebags and therefore love being abused. In an episode of Family Guy, Quagmire or Brian tells Stewie that women enjoy being abused, so mistreating them will get them a girlfriend. This idea is obviously wrong and damaging. It perpetuates the idea that women are weak and need to be mistreated in order to be loved, when in reality the opposite is true. Women should be respected and treated with kindness, not abused in any way. This insanity about women should never be tolerated, no matter the context. Not only does this hurt women emotionally, it always leads to physical violence. It contributes to a dangerous cycle of abuse, as women may start to believe that this kind of treatment is normal and acceptable. Abuse of any kind is never okay and it is important to be aware of the damaging effects it can have on people. This shit is exemplified by the case of Brock Turner, who was convicted of sexual assault and served only three months in prison. His lenient sentence was seen by many as evidence that society does not take sexual assault seriously, and that it is somehow acceptable to harm and take advantage of women.
My opinion (I have no doubt I am right about this) is that sexism is the foundation of fascism...
My brother who considers himself a leftist and defines his views as socialist. "Nice guys finish last" and "women love bad boys" are a couple of ridiculous things he often says. Despite the fact that my brother is pretty “popular” with women, he doesn't understand that the women he dates are almost always drug addicts or alcoholics. He dates them through Tinder. It's basically the same thing incels do, judging all women based on this sex app called Tinder.
We should never measure a man's success based on how many women he slept with. It always makes the men treat women like sexual objects or a trophy to put on a display. Fundamentally, they become an instrument to accomplish a goal. (I'm saying we should not "virgin shame" i know it's tempting but try not to do it)
The idea that women only love "alpha males" is complete bullshit and ultimately hurts them. In doing so, it reinforces the dominant-submissive dichotomy. As in, the strong should rule the weak. Observe in the picture I posted that this shitty person compares women to children because of their perceived shared weakness...while asserting that men are stronger than them both...
"""There is nothing worse in my book than a man who betrays the trust of those weaker than himself, be they children or women.""""
Having comedians like Louis C.K doesn't help much either with jokes like "men fuck things up, women are fucked up”. What does that even mean you little shit??? Men are the ones who shoot up schools and throw acid at people when they're rejected. Can't they both fuck things up and also be fucked in the head at the same time? These “jokes” are casually accepted by most people... I am aware that most communists do not think that way, but based on the example of my brother, I am skeptical.
Also, this shithead in the picture says..””many women are understandably attracted to good looks in a man, and willing to overlook some pretty obvious character flaws if the man is, and perceived to be by other women, physically attractive””
It’s like they all think women are 14 year old tweens...They are all naive, according to them.
This is why I am not surprised when a lot of these men end up being child molesters...
I don't think guys believe women like to be abused of should be abused.. As a man, I don't know anyone that would do that. And I wouldn't either. This is a bit offensive for men that actually respect women, as you are putting all of us in the same box. Also, putting your source as Quora (full of trolls and bots) is a bit funny.
You cannot be serious. As an example, I once went to the bar with a friend. He suggested we lie to women about being rich so that we can get laid. In my fucking opinion, that’s a form of abuse. You'd be surprised how common those tactics are in bars. This crap is accepted because of the shit I talked about in the post.
There are physical and psychological forms of abuse.
You seem to be blaming the women for having a sexual attraction to "rich men" and therefore deserving of this treatment to the extent where you reduce this to simply bad behavior. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that's how you see it.
Uhh, lying for sex is completely wrong…It should not be tolerated at all. Psychological abuse is always involved. Women, if any, do not really do this, despite the fact that many men do so.
Lol, you can come with sources and evidence before you make a sexist statement like that.
As evidence, I simply socialize in person instead of being a dweeb who has never set foot in a club or been invited to a party(gaming or LAN party doesn't count). Let me just tell you that you are a loser before you claim that's anecdotal evidence. Don't be afraid to do it, it will prove my point.
Quite a childish and pathetic way to discuss. You’ve got no sources except for “it appears that way through my anecdotal evidence” and then all you can do afterwards is call me some pathetic insults. You’re really showing that you’re all about equality and acceptance, apparently the most popular pastimes still make you call someone a dweeb, as if anyone in the world is insecure about playing video games 🤣
Priding yourself on having no evidence or exceptionally flawed evidence is just the cherry on top of this reactionary response.
I am just slightly more observant than you, unfortunately that does mean that you’ll never understand how flawed the logic is in your deeply emotional comments.
I would’ve had a normal conversation about your lack of sources not necessarily meaning you’re wrong and how your statement accusing men of doing a bad thing and women of not doing that bad thing doesn’t mean that women don’t do the exact same thing in a slightly different form. But if all you can do is start screaming then that kinda falls flat.
I'm pleased to see that every insult I used against you has proved to be true.
You can also just literally say you don’t have an argument and you just want to be an asshole.
I'm still in a pretty dark place 10 months after getting dumped by someone I was really fond of, who was tweeting stuff about me like "equinox [an expensive gym] is a hella good deal, maybe there I'll find a man who actually has an income" & "my therapist called the guy I'm seeing a beta male" for the entire time we were together. A few days after the breakup she tweeted "these dudes never buy me flowers and act sooo surprised when I break up with them".
She's the type who posted ass on instagram and studied in LA, identifies as a feminist and a socialist; I recognize this is an individual behaving in a stereotypical way instead of it being a hard rule for all women. I do also feel sympathetic for her dissociative identity disorder (think I saw a different ego state when she told me she liked me after crying during sex—apparently b/c she "didn't deserve such a nice guy" but tweeted I was a beta 6 hours earlier) and that doesn't excuse these actions/sense of entitlement.
Naturally, how I was informed that we were no longer together was that "you're wonderful it's not you, I'm not feeling the way I want to feel, we're just too similar" and that I'd "be remembered fondly"... I make almost twice her psychology PhD tuition & gifted my dead cat's toys for her adopted kitten. So yeah, an individual occurrence but it really reinforced some stereotypes I'm trying to dispel. Of course I recognize if I was more financially ostentatious & she stuck around longer, issues would have manifested somehow else.
Anyways sorry for whingeing, I'm still self-flagellating over consciously overlooking red flags like being told "lying comes naturally to us pisces" twice, "I'm getting my PhD to charge my clients more", and "I just want to be rich to feed my family the healthiest foods".