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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were you totally going to have children before you found out how bad they are for the climate? If not, you're resting on literally fictional laurels. For example, maybe you planned a genocide of all black people, but then chose not to do it when you heard racism is bad. Therefore, by your logic, you prevented millions of deaths. You're basically an anti-racist hero!

But finally, as a childfree, carfree vegan myself, I don't understand why you can't just do your best

Here's a list of things I didn't do, just to save the planet:

  • Have 200 children
  • Eat an entire cow every day
  • Drive 10 gas-guzzling, coal-rolling cars SIMULTANIOUSLY via remote control 24/7, 365 days a year
  • Invent the Globarzinator, a device that produces 5 BAJILLION MEGATONNES of CO2 every Planck time unit
[–] art 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The environmental impact was not the ONLY reason I'm child free but it was definitely a factor in that decision. Same with being carfree. In fact I do a lot of things for not than one reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is that even without that reason you wouldn't have any kids. It's not the cornerstone of your childfree-ness. Neither is it for me, which is why I recognize that it's morally lazy to rest on the imaginary laurels of not birthing children.

By that logic, every parent could ALSO claim they are doing their part for the earth. Simply by not having EVEN MORE children. Hell, maybe they are better than you because you only didn't have 2 kids, but they didn't have 4 additional kids. Thats twice the savings, twice the reason to not make the world a better place and blame everyone else!

[–] art 1 points 1 year ago

The average family has 1.6 to 2.4 children depending on the region. The "even more" argument doesn't really hold up because that's not the societal norm.

I also don't own a car and cycle/bus everywhere. My girlfriend and I made the choice not to have kids, and we try not to be wasteful. It's not about sacrifice, it's about being aware of what you do.