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I wanna start an argument about Kangatarianism - refusing to eat any meat but kangaroo (en.wikipedia.org)

submitted 2 days ago by [email protected] to c/vegancirclejerk

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Yeah, bees are controversial, but let's talk about the vegans who actually eat meat

Aboriginal Australians have been hunting kangaroos for 60,000 years, and the kangaroos have adapted. Modern kangaroos tend to overpopulate and overgraze, destroying grasslands that are used as crucial habitats for threatened indigenous species. Kangaroos need to be culled to protect the environment.

All kangaroo meat comes from wild kangaroos. Hunting quotas are managed by the government based on aerial population surveys. When hunting quotas aren't met, the remaining kangaroos have to be culled, and their meat rots in ditches and mass graves instead of being eaten.

Come on vegans, let's get toxic. I wanna see some pro-kangatarian vegans being called murderers over this.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The natural predators of kangaroos are parasites, and indigenous humans. Indigenous humans haven't been eradicated, but colonisation and capitalism have harmed their ability to engage in traditional practices that maintain the land.

[–] notaviking 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't you guys have Steve Irwin's crocodiles. Where they not the natural predators of kangaroos, I assume most of them have been removed from most rivers to more natural protected areas?

Or like the Tasmanian Tiger, even though they look a bit small, but if there were packs of them, or dingoes. Look I believe humans have disrupted the natural forces keeping Australia's fauna and flora in equilibrium, just like almost everywhere else. I think you also have an alien toad that is also wrecking havoc on your ecosystem, where I am really in favour of ethical thought out method of eliminating invasive alien species.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Crocodiles live in rivers and ocean. Most of Australia is a desert. Crocodiles are actually classified as a least concern. They don't have a problem with global warming, they're reptiles. They ruled the earth last time it was this hot.

Thylacines were too small to take down a kangaroo, and hunted alone. Thylacines were also extinct on the mainland when the white invaders arrived.

Australia doesn't really have megafauna predation on the same scale as the other continents, except for humans. Invasive species have been so harmful to Australia because the indigenous species over there just aren't as... competitive. They don't have bears, or wolves, or moosen, or elephants, or big cats. It's a chiller vibe. Rabbit plagues are such a problem because there are no large scale predators to deal with them like in europe and the americas. Australia's ecosystem has been very fragile for tens of thousands of years. And humans have been managing it to keep it in balance for just as long. If you're talking about the natural state of Australia, it's one managed by humans, passing down conservation methods through oral histories over millenia. You're underestimating the wisdom and importance of aboriginal australians.

In Afro-Eurasia, recorded history began around 5,000 years ago, with the rise of the written word in Egypt and Mesopotamia. In Australia, recorded history is ten times longer. Intentionally recorded, with the specific goal of preparing people for the future with lessons from the past.