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One in 15 Americans has witnessed a mass shooting – study (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 3 days ago by [email protected] to c/aboringdystopia

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One in 15 Americans has witnessed a mass shooting, a new study shows, revealing the depth and impact of the epidemic of gun violence that has washed over the US in recent decades.

The study found that about 7% of US adults have been present at the scene of a mass shooting in their lifetime, and more than 2% have been injured during one, according to new a report from the University of Colorado Boulder.

Since 2014, there have been nearly 5,000 mass shootings documented nationwide, with more than 500 occurring annually since 2020, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Here's the study, if you bother to click two links deep from this posted article.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2831132

They define a mass shooting as 4+ people struck with a bullet.

2% of people report being injured because being trampled in a stampede or struck from a ricochet or bullet fragment counts as an injury.

Stampede and 'crowd-squeeze' / 'crowd-crush' injuries are quite common in densely crowded areas where a shooting, or fire, or something incites a general panic and rush to flee, and can cause as much or more deaths and injuries in very dense crowds than the actual immediate danger being fleed from.

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Maybe actually read the methodology before constructing a strawman version of it and then tearing that down because your personal experience doesn't match broader data.

Your caricatured criticism of how they obtained the data, how they structured the survey, is completely baseless and innacurate.

You say you're 54, so by the study's definition, you are Gen X, and are thus about twice as likely to have never been present for a mass shooting as a Millenial, about three times as likely to have never been present at a mass shooting as Gen Z.

See Table 3.

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You're doing the stereotypical boomer thing, making up baseless nonsense critiques and assuming everyone involved is comically incompetent to justify your gut reaction.

The reason surveys are done is because you can't actually have any idea about broad social patterns when your only actual data point is the anecdote of your single life and its experiences.

What's actually sad is how confident you are in your own baseless, made up strawman criticisms and personal incredulity.

If you think your criticisms have merit, I look forward to your own academically published paper taking down the specific methodological flaws you seem to think exist in a paper written by 3 PhDs in the fields of Sociology and Criminology, who are well trained in statistics and survey methodology.

Untill then, I'll be laughing at the horseshit level critique you've thus far presented.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 6 points 3 days ago

You say you're 54, so by the study's definition, you are Gen X, and are thus about twice as likely to have never been present for a mass shooting as a Millenial, about three times as likely to have never been present at a mass shooting as Gen Z.
See Table 3.

Exactly. I’m in my mid 30’s and know several people who have witnessed mass shootings. I have personally been under active shooter lockdowns multiple times. Hell, my former roommate was shot in the ass by one at a music festival. This person saw “7% have witnessed an active shooting” and immediately called bullshit, because they’re part of the other 93% and are incapable of imagining anything outside of their (extremely narrow) lived experience. And that’s some real boomer attitude.