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Renewables surprisingly "on track" to meet net zero by 2050::undefined

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[–] SCB 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I work with a climate lobbying group and upwards of 95% of all new energy construction in the US is renewables. Right now the focus of the group is lobbying for energy infrastructure and lessening permitting requirements (both of which have at least some bipartisan support). If we get both of these, renewable goals are definitely reachable.

Carbon tax is still a non-starter with Republicans in general tho, and that's what would really tip the scales.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When and how do we get offshore wind that's worth a crap in the US? It seems so obvious to me that we have huge population centers right next to huge "wind reserves".

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago

Permitting requirements will help there but unfortunately that solution is tied to state governments as well, which may or may not be good news depending on where you're talking about.

[–] eleitl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The goals of renewable should be quantitative substitution of fossil primary energy within less than 50 years.

[–] SCB 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like a suit of power armor, if we're just magicking things into existence.

[–] eleitl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, we don't even have 50 years. Net energy of oil liquids is projected to peak as early as 2025. So trying to address that by trying to scale up even more volume only makes the energy cliff steeper.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] eleitl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That would be sure nice, but the hard numbers of the physical reality say otherwise.

If you think we do have 50 years I recommend to reexamine the data. E.g. https://escholarship.org/uc/energy_ambitions is pretty comprehensive.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] eleitl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to have an argument, try using arguments. Quantitative ones, like in https://escholarship.org/uc/energy_ambitions

If you don't want to have a conversation, continue to use empty assertions and slurs. But count me out of that.

Your choice entirely.

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry bro I don't ever buy into doomposting.

Enjoy being meaninglessly sad.