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Bernie Sanders gets fact checked (lemmy.ml)

submitted 5 days ago by [email protected] to c/progressivepolitics

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[–] ceenote 119 points 5 days ago (24 children)

"Technically, the United States didn't get bad, it's always been bad! It only got worse!" isn't the flex a lot of leftists think it is.

[–] Brainsploosh 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What's wrong with the message "We should be doing better, not worse"?

Seems preferable to the "hurt people who also want the things I have" that seems the core of conservatism.

[–] ceenote 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

What's wrong with it is it's normalizing Donald Trump. Like, actually pointing at Trump and saying "this is normal." US democracy is on life support, and calling this business-as-usual is like telling people there's nothing to see here while he yanks and tugs on the plug.

[–] Brainsploosh 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure I understand.

Saying "We can do better than Trump/Fascism/Corruption/Kleptocracy" seems far from normalising the current state?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Saying we can do better than trump/fascism is not what the OP is implying. The op is implying what were are doing now is the same as what we have done before. We can acknowledge that we've done bad before, but now it's for sure way worse. I agree with Bernie that now is way worse than before

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