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Technically speaking, Marxist idea of communism is a system where everyone just agrees to get along and share. The goal of communism and anarchism is largely the same, the differences are in how to reach that goal. Anarchists believe class struggles can be solved without a state apparatus while communists believe state apparatus will wither away on its own once the class struggle has been solved. In both cases you end up in a classless and stateless system where people just get along.
That's the dream of both systems. Historically one has had ulterior motives because of the horrible track record of the Bolsheviks. Spain and Russia's revolution itself, and then post war all spent time with the heavy hand of hierarchy dominating those under them. Trials, executions, and treachery. Constant propaganda and a total lack of comradery between the anarchists. George Orwell spoke of the constant push to present the anarchist militias as the problems in Spain. In Oppenheimer (didn't expect to read it here too) one person becomes an officer in the Spanish republican army and hears word that before his squad even started fighting there would be a cleansing of anarchist members of their group.
I'm not saying every attempt at Maxist Leninist communism is somehow going to turn into this but it does seem like the heavy hand of the state begs to be used to dominate.