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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/57405501

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"As with hit tunes and hit pictures and hit entertainments, fashion rushes in to fill the vacuum in our senses created by technological displacements. Perhaps that is why it seems to be the expression of such a colossal preference while it lasts. James Joyce gives it a key role in Finnegans Wake in his section on the Prankquean. The Prankquean is the very expression of war and aggression. In her life, clothing is weaponry: "I'm the queen of the castle and you're the dirty rascal." In the very opening line of Finnegans Wake β€” "riverrun, past Eve and Adam's..."β€” Joyce thus indicates the reversal of nature that has taken place since the fall of man. It is not the world of Adam and Eve, but one in which there is priority of Eve over Adam. Clothing as weaponry had become a primary social factor. Clothing is anti-environmental, but it also creates a new environment. It is also anti- the elements and anti-enemies and anti- competitors and anti-boredom." - Page 21, 1968 "War and Peace in the Global Village", Marshall McLuhan

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

A blowhard obfuscating a very simple and commonly understood message: clothes matter. They communicate your status, ideology, and alignments. The recent fiasco in the White House where Zelenskyy was criticized for not wearing a suit coupled with the protest image depicted above strongly suggests a commonly heard refrain around these parts:

This is a war between classes. Oligarchs/Plutocrats vs Workers.

And consequently Zelenskyy identifying with the working class is the real reason Trump is withdrawing support.

There's more to it I'm sure, but frankly, I can't be bothered when people vomit word salads instead of just saying what they mean. It is more important for them to 'sound' intelligent, than communicate their message so I give them what they want :P

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

@Burstar @tisktisk

There is more to it. They needed something to hit him with. With Obama it was a tan suit and with Zelensky it was his unofficial military uniform.

Had he been wearing a suit they would have gone after him for wearing a fancy suit while his people were dying. A tan one at that.

The top image puts that into perspective. Because the answer to her question is off course no, they would not suddenly care and take action. The suit, or lack, thereof is inconsequential.

Well I hope you liked this Zelensky salad of mine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's a fair point. I agree they would have attacked Zelensky no matter what, but IMO when Zelensky handed them their ass they fell back to core principles and so unsurprisingly resulted to classist insults.

Regardless, I'm really not that invested in the topic. My issue was the OP was hiding behind quotation marks instead of saying what they wanted to say and sealioning instead of explaining when people asked for clarification. My interpretation being so off mark itself shows an explaination was warranted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

@Burstar sorry sealioning? What do you mean by that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Refusing to answer questions. Edit: trolling would probably be a better word.

[–] WraithGear 5 points 8 hours ago

Her question is rhetorical. Because the answer is of course Russia would still be killing Ukrainians she is arguing against the US right. And Zelenskyy is right to not wear a suit as it shows solidarity to who really matters. If the argument is that the situation could have been avoided if he just wore a suit. Then the administration is obviously lying, and never intended to support him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you talking about? What does any of your post have to do with the working class? You know these same people went after Obama for wearing the wrong color suit too, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

If you don't understand how criticizing not wearing a suit relates to working class I don't think I can help you.

Going after someone for not wearing the right colour suit is similar in nature: 'you are not one of us'.