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U.S. President Donald Trump has ordered a suspension of all military aid to Ukraine, escalating pressure on President Volodymyr Zelensky mere days after a heated exchange in the Oval Office cast doubt on U.S. support for Kyiv.

A senior Defense Department official told Bloomberg that all U.S. military assistance to Ukraine is on hold until Trump determines that Ukrainian leaders are making a genuine effort toward peace.

The pause affects not only future aid but also weapons already in transit, including shipments on aircraft and ships, as well as equipment awaiting transfer in Poland.

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Edit: changed source from Bloomberg to Kyiv Independent b/c there's no paywall and more detail in the story.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

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Ok, let's make sense out of this

  • The US gov announced very officially they stopped providing military aid to Ukraine.
  • The US gov announced very officially they stop provivding intelligence to Ukraine.
  • Trump asked very openly for a draft on lifting sanctions on Russia.

But they got some planes flying over the black sea, that collect intel, the same intel they said won't be shared with Ukraine therefore will not be used against Russia interests whatsoever, and that's your evidence to claim their actions are ambiguous?

I was wrong. They CAN supply Russia with weapons and you'll claim it's still ambiguous. Actually, they can probably bomb Ukraine themselves as much as a certain individual can shoot someone on the 5th avenue without losing a single supporter.-

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

How many times US government announced they were working to stop the genocide in gaza but were actually fueling it?

But they got some planes flying over the black sea

They have been flying fleets of planes near russia since the war started, probably even before that but not many were watching.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Gaza and Ukraine are 2 totally different cases, using one to assess the other makes no sense. In Gaza, under Biden, they barely announced they would hold on deliveries to Israel, and they did to a bare minimum. There was no secret hidden delivery, it was in plain sight for all to see. One of the reasons is some high profile donors of the Dems are supporting Netanyahu.

Under Trump, the position has changed for a full support of the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, and they resumed the delivery of larger bombs, that Biden had indeed been withholding.

The US collect intelligence in many different places worldwide. They didn't say they would stop collecting intelligence, they said they would stop sharing it with Ukraine. The goal is not hidden, it's been announced and the acts are consistent: it's to force Zelensky to surrender to Russia, what Trump calls a "peace plan" in exchange of… well nothing, really. Ukraine loses, as simple as that.

There is no secret chess play here. If you ask why Trump supports Russia against pretty much all of the US (former?) allies now, then we venture into speculation, though many of us have an idea. But is he supporting Russia? Yes, definitely, the evidences are compelling. That's no longer a question. It's more than time to accept it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Gaza and Ukraine are 2 totally different cases, using one to assess the other makes no sense

Yes it does because what the government is doing is lying to the public

Look at the evidence

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So you're saying that as Biden was lying about his efforts to stop the massacre at Gaza so that he would not piss too many of the dems voters, Trump pretends to be a traitor working for Russia so that he wouldn't piss too much… Russia sympathizers in his base??

You realize that doesn't make the slightest sense?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So you’re saying that as Biden was lying about his efforts to stop the massacre at Gaza so that he would not piss too many of the dems voters

That's exactly what happened. Are you aware that the government lies to the public on a daily basis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures

Trump pretends to be a traitor working for Russia so that he wouldn’t piss too much… Russia sympathizers in his base??

The government put up shows to manipulate and brainwash the public. It may look like the current situation doesn't make sense but everything is going according to the plan. Trump is working as the perfect scapegoat for all problems and everyone is blaming him instead of putting the finger at the corrupted and rigged as fuck system. Next elections the red and blue party will win again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

You're forcing your conclusion on facts that don't align with them. Yes, Biden lied, I literally wrote that, no need to try to further convince me. And it's no well kept secret why: the dems would do nothing to upset their donors, and some high profile donors support Netanyahu. There is nothing to read in that.

There is no logic in your claim about Trump whatsoever, but you're so up in "government lie all the time" that you invent conspiracy where there is none.

Yes, Trump lies. if you ask him, he works for USA's and its citizens best interests. And the truth is he's working for himself, and at present that means doing Putin's bidding. And if you make that hypothesis, everything he does make perfect sense.

There is no need to imagine a more complex scheme. None of these people are geniuses. They are normal humans (well... Trump is the exception, he's abnormally stupid and unhinged) and their plans are never that deep.

And yes, next elections (if there are...), it will be red vs blue again, not because of a complex scheme with Russia, but because most of the medias belong to oligarchs and will shoot down any outlier, and because the system was made for a 2 parties alternance. None of that has anything to do with Trump's behavior, and would he support Ukraine instead of Russia, it would be just the same. Evidence: Biden supported Ukraine. Did that change the blue vs red thing?