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Revealed: at least 25 UK ‘spy cops’ had sex with deceived members of public (www.theguardian.com)

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At least 25 undercover police officers who infiltrated political groups formed sexual relationships with members of the public without disclosing their true identity to them, the Guardian can disclose.

The total shows how women were deceived on a systemic basis over more than three decades. It equates to nearly a fifth of all the police spies who were sent to infiltrate political movements.

One woman, known as Jacqui, has said her life was “absolutely ruined” after she discovered by chance that the father of her son was an undercover officer, more than 20 years after his birth. The officer, Bob Lambert, abandoned them when the son was an infant, claiming falsely that he had to go on the run abroad to escape being arrested by police.

Other women had intimate relationships lasting up to six years with men who concealed the fact they were undercover officers who had been sent to spy on them and their friends.

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[–] FauxLiving 12 points 1 day ago

TIL that I've been raped by exs because they didn't disclose disturbing personal details about themselves until later in the relationship.

Or, maybe, consent isn't something that you can decide to revoke years later.

Informed consent is typically limited to things effecting the individual sexual incident. So things like not disclosing that you have HIV or that you intentionally damaged a condom could violate that principle but that doesn't mean that any lie renders the other person incapable of consent.

A person lying about personal details doesn't mean that they're a serial rapist. If you really believe that definition (rather than, as I suspect, engaging in motivated reasoning to reach an outrage-based conclusion) then every dating site and bar on the planet should be shut down due to the amount of "rapists" that they enable.

Obviously the government has liability here. After all these men were agents of the government at the time and there are children resulting from this incident and so it should be investigated before a judge.

But trying to call this rape is just nonsense.