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[–] [email protected] 53 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Ukraine should make a deal with Europe. Europe should send troops to Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah... NATO is DEFINITELY not sending troops to Ukraine basically ever at this point. Because they increasingly need to be worried about both russia AND the us attacking them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, that's the problem with NATO, it was always US interests first and European interests second. Whenever those two diverged, the Europeans just had to sit on their hands (that was the deal, that is why defense spending was not a priority)...but this time it is different: it has proven existential for Europe, regardless of whatever direction the wind may be blowing at that one time in the oval office.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago

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Yes. What is different is that now it is going to be every European country in NATO protecting their own interests... from the US and russia.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago

poland, ukraine, and finland are all DEEPLY familiar with the concept…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Watch the interview. Trump is scared shitless over the potential of WW3 and UK and France have nukes. If NATO (less US) decided to do something in Ukraine, the most Trump would do is impose tariffs, which is something he was going to do anyway.

This interview proved Trump to be a coward.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

Been saying it for a couple of weeks. Also best way to hold Putin to account. I think he goes home if UKraine agrees no NATO.