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Andor | Season 2 Trailer | Streaming April 22 on Disney+ (www.youtube.com)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

They monitor torrent numbers as a guide to success.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Win/Win

If I get caught I'll just say it's for my LLM

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What? What kind of success metric is that? I can't find a single source to corroborate what you said.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I remember reading about it years ago, around the time Game of Thrones was quite popular. Looks like it was 10 years ago. https://torrentfreak.com/media-companies-track-pirated-downloads-for-marketing-purposes-150218/

However, wouldn't it be foolish of them not to look at what is being pirated? They love scooping up data. It is essentially free Neilson ratings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the link. Three thoughts:

  1. The entire article is an ad for a data product called Tru Optik, where the main selling point seems to be identifying revenue loss due to streaming.
  2. Netflix said they use torrent data to determine what series to acquire.
  3. Streaming services don't need Nielsen data, since they already have direct viewer data.

It's probable streaming services look at this data, but I was specifically questioning the "using it as a success metric" part. Their two main success metrics are direct viewer data and subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Netflix literally said they use the data to see what series to pay for. That is another way of saying they monitor torrents for success.

Look, it's ok to disagree, but you don't need to ask for evidence for everything you read on the Internet that doesn't affect you personally.

If that evidence is offered, it's ok to just admit you are surprised and/or wrong.

Streaming services only have data on their own streams.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't need to become patronizing, especially when it's something so small. It's a discussion thread. Your framing sounded unlikely to me, I asked for more information, and it still sounds unlikely by my read. We discussed it, and now we can move on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, I'm happy to. My point is that your tone was unnecessary and rude. Perhaps unintentionally.

My brusqueness was a tone shift. Yours started from the get-go. So your whiplash from the change was my first impression of you.

Just food for thought for future interactions and starting a discussion from a point of incredulity and dismissal.