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I'm someone who's trans, who voted for Harris, who tried to make sure everyone around me understood that Trump was a fascist (it didn't work). I've had way too many Europeans and Canadians try to tell me that I should be taking partial responsibility for Trump. I've had way too many people from Europe and Canada tell me that I should just get over it, grow up, and stop being hysterical about what's going on, while immigrants are being rounded up and sent to totally-not-concentration-camps in Guantanamo Bay. This is called "victim-blaming" and it's a disgusting practice and quite honestly, fuck them too at this point. If they wanna be on the wrong side of history, that's their choice.
Imagine telling the immigrants, Jews, disabled or LGBT during the Holocaust that it was their fault that Hitler was rounding them up and putting them in concentration camps.
What an absolutely disgusting attitude and it shows the true colors of Europe and Canada. The most upsetting part is that I know that once this is all over, they're gonna be sitting there crying crocodile tears while pretending that they knew nothing and nothing could have been done.
Edit: meanwhile I have a couple south american friends who are trying to get me to move to their respective countries because supposedly people in most south american countries don't actually give a shit about your sexuality or gender; it's only the corrupt-ass American puppets who give a fuck. Surprise-surprise. Also, if true, so much for the anglosphere moral superiority complex lmao. I'm very tempted to take a long vacation to visit them and test the waters.
Its wild how judgey this is when many EU voters are flirting with voting for fascists as well.
While you do recognize Orban, the afd, and Lukashenko, you bring them up as a way to suggest that that Americans should not ask for sympathy on Trump because they have done nothing to prevent these a other authoritarian governments from forming. Nobody is asking you or your country to step in and save America from Trump. We all know America did that to its self and has to live with it now.
But we are all living under systems in which the fascists are dominating the propaganda machine in "the west." It is not something happening in isolated pocks in the few scenarios you list. You give whiplash by indicating both the the individual has not done anything/enough to prevent genocide and Trump and that it is also not their personal fault. But then you still say that you will support this person once they (or Americans generally) fix the threat to you. But the call is coming from within the house. They can not entirely fix the threat to you even if they managed to fix the entire us political system. It is not just their Democratic system resulting in this.
They deserve sympathy as we all do or likely will. May we all be saved from the poor decisions of our nationalal peers.