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Fuck Subscriptions

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Naming and shaming all "recurring spending models" where a one-time fee (or none at all) would be appropriate and logical.

Expect use of strong language.

Follow the basic rules of lemmy.world and common sense, and try to have fun if possible.

No flamewars or attacking other users, unless they're spineless corporate shills.

Note that not all subscriptions are awful. Supporting your favorite ~~camgirl~~ creator or Lemmy server on Patreon is fine. An airbag with subscription is irl Idiocracy-level dystopian bullshit.

New community rule: Shilling for cunty corporations, their subscriptions and other anti-customer practices may result in a 1-day ban. It's so you can think about what it's like when someone can randomly decide what you can and can't use, based on some arbitrary rules. Oh what, you didn't read this fine print? You should read what you're agreeing to.

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cross-posted from: https://yiffit.net/post/475688

Xbox Game Pass Core subscribers will get access to a small selection of the games available with the regular/higher tiers of Game Pass, starting with more than 25 games

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2 years ago I had to move to a temp place. First evening, I unpacked my PS3 which I hadn't had time for for a long time. Lots of games on it (and on discs), so I could just sit and play Journey.

Had all my games had been this subscription sort, I'd have nothing.

Now I know you can still buy games - for now, anyway. But since these companies make you pay for multiplayer anyway, it's an easy upsell for them. Just pay a bit more and you can play so many games... Just pay forever.

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[–] WhoRoger -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I said before. If in 5 years there will be fewer than 20 big-name AAA games exclusive to subscription services, you can come back and call me stupid.

Otherwise I'm tired of constantly pointing out how rotten the game industry is (not even singling out M$ here, they just happen to be even worse in other industries as well, so it's a double whammy), how dumb and evil services like this are, and am also tired of all these arguments.

I don't mind debating, but if you believe all this will always be great with sweet deals and "free" games and no major subscription exclusives, and MS will be generous out of pure goodness because it's gonna kill those evil console exclusives, despite how often history repeats itself over and over with the customer always getting fucked, I don't know what to tell you anymore.

BTW I never complained about platform exclusives. Xbox can have its Halo and Gears and whatnot. Never understood the panic around the Epic launcher either, if people already accept a dozen other launchers.

There's a difference between having a buying a few studios here and there, and trying to become the same kind of monopolistic behemoth MS wants to be in everything. I actually think Xbox has been a pretty okay brand overall, but the corporation behind it is cancer and one has to be on the lookout around them at all times.

And the other thing I'm strongly against is obvious, I think...

[–] eochaid 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, stop turning me into your strawman.

I'm not arguing that the game industry isn't awful or that game pass is the best, or the Activision merger is good. Collectively, we already spilled so much ink on those things and inevitably it doesn't matter because they're happening anyway and all these arguements are only used to further divide gamers into "sony" or "MS" camps fighting over which multi-billion dollar company to hate or stan.

What I'm arguing against is your belief that you're going to be required to pay for game pass to get games. That has not happened. It will not happen for the reasons I already outlined above. This is a made up argument to drum up fear and hatred of MS (presumably in favor of Sony).

Name a single game, existing or future, that is solely exclusive to game pass without any other ways to get it. I'll wait.... ... ... ... ... And when you can't - then you should examine why you believe so strongly, without evidence, and despite evidence to the contrary, that this doomsday scenario will happen. And who it could benefit to make you, and others, believe and fear and argue with such emotion that MS is taking games away from you.

[–] WhoRoger -1 points 1 year ago

I already said it twice: if in 5 years there will be fewer than 20 AAA games exclusive to Game Pass, you can come back and call me stupid. And I'll even be happy about it.

Frankly it can be any service for what I care. If Sony does it first, I'll bitch about it just the same. Crap is crap. MS is well poised to get there first, but this whole trend of "you won't own anything and be happy" of subscriptions is larger than even MS.

So... Deal?