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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Love everything about reddit but inexplicably wish to leave it?

Hate the idea of an english speaking internet that doesn't slavishly adhere to the party line of the US alphabet agencies?

Do you think the parable of the nazi bar is bunch of hokum?

Do you have shrieking anger towards people who refused to support genocide while having shrieking anger at (usually the same) people rejecting decades long debunked accusations of genocide made by the perpetrators of aforementioned genocide?

Join the lemmyverse! We have racism! We have homophobia! We have trans misogyny! We have daily 5 minutes hate!

And if anyone tells you different, have you considered they're a paid shill by the notorious gay sex haver Putler??

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We have Ukrainian/Uyghur genocide denial!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Remember, if the US accuses someone of genocide, you have to believe them! Donbas genocide is just propaganda though, and Gaza isn't that bad.

[–] surph_ninja -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

"Not all people defending their country are nice people"

"It's almost a genocide, but not quite, so it's all good"

Priceless. Do you think Russia would have had moral problems arming questionable militia in the first place? Because at least the USA did, initially.

[–] surph_ninja 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)
  1. There’s a big difference between ‘there’s Nazis in our military’ vs ‘our government is erecting monuments of Nazis.’
  2. It’s not even ‘almost a genocide.’ The US officials are trying to save face. The CIA and State Dept were training Uyghur extremists to destabilize the region, and they’re pissed China put a stop to it, and started rehabilitating the militants.
[–] Dasus -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Your views seem to coincide with Russian propaganda.

You're pro-Russian and think Russia was not wrong to break international law by invading a sovereign nation. I would bet.

[–] surph_ninja 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This strikes me as much of the root of the problem here, of why immature and uneducated people are drawn to fascism. You all treat it like team sports.

You really can’t even imagine opposing Russia while also opposing Nazis. Or you’re just a Nazi looking to groom people into the ideology with Russiaphobia.

[–] Dasus 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm a Finnish person with detailed understanding of Russia.

We literally fought Nazis and Russia, both.

I constantly criticise the US for it's growing fascism. I also heavily criticise my own country for its authoritarian tendencies. See unlike you, I don't have a preferred flavour when it comes to injustice. I'm disgusted by it all.

So your attempt at generalising is really ironic here. You are literally doing what you blame "others" for doing "treating it like team sports". But you can't accept a single criticism of Russia. And would NEVER admit to the WELL DOCUMENTED war crimes they've pulled during their ILLEGAL INVASION of a sovereign country with some ridiculous excuse of "we are invading them to save them from Nazism and install our dear leader".

"ideology of Russiaphobia"

First of, it's "russophobia". Secondly, no, pointing out facts about Russia, like their endless amount of war crimes isn't any sort of discrimination, вахтера.

[–] surph_ninja 0 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago) (1 children)

I’ve not defended Russia once. I’m attacking Nazis, and you’ve taken extreme offense to it. Which really undermines your comment. If you’re actually anti-Nazi, stop defending them.

[–] Dasus 1 points 19 seconds ago

You're basically saying that anyone who criticises Russian war crimes is a Nazi. And then when I ignore your childish "he's a Nazi" bullshit, you say that's evidence I'm a nazi.

You can't control your projection.

I know you won't answer this, but I'm gonna do it so that other's see too; do you accept that Russia has committed loads of documented crimes against humanity in their illegal invasion of a sovereign country?

If you're actually "attacking Nazism", then you know we fight nazism, because it's fascism. We fight fascism because cruel totalitarian regimes shouldn't exist and everyone should be able to live safely and have their human rights respected. If that is so, then you must oppose the Russian government, as it's clearly a totalitarian regime with a despotic leader. So, do you oppose Putin and his government's endless crimes against humanity?

Prohibited weapons. Abduction and deportation. Attacks on civilians. Unlawful wanton destruction or appropriation of property. Attacks on hospitals and medical facilities. Destruction of energy infrastructure. Destruction and theft of cultural heritage. Torture of civilians. Use of human shields. Sexual violence. Looting. Forced conscription. Mistreatment of prisoners of war. Genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nothing says holocaust denial more than deliberately watering down the term 'genocide'

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing says genocide apologist like insisting every genocide has to be exactly like to Holocaust to count as a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

How fun! Just call literally anything you want a genocide (like literally any war, drought, or prison) and then play act outrage when anyone asks you to have a sense of personal shame or honesty!

IT'S TOTALLY NOT LITERALLY A NAZI TACTIC

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

Oh wait, yes it is. It is literally a nazi tactic. You're doing a literal nazism.

Maybe you should knock it the fuck off before you get confused with a literal nazi, hmmmmmm?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Trump isn't a fascist, y'all leftists are just over-reacting, stop watering down the term "fascism" /s

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Trump is a fascist and so are you. He's just less of one because he could put his own personal political interests above doing a genocide whereas you were willing to lose an election to go full bore.