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The Voice referendum official Yes/No pamphlets (www.aec.gov.au)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A lot of people have responded intelligently, but I'm going to respond like a dum-dum:

  • In a liberal democracy, everyone should be equal under the law, but this country was colonised. We could all just leave and come back later, or we could pay reparations. Otherwise, we're basically stealing shit and saying "OK we're starting liberal democracy... NOW"... wait (steal more stuff) "now"... I mean (steal more) now. Now for real! The Mabo ruling literally happened in the 90s. So much for Liberal Democracy.
  • The Voice does not exist to "fix Aboriginal problems". It exists as a first step towards reconciliation, there will be other steps which will need more constitutional amendments. The "problem" is non-aboriginal people.
  • It's not a "minority group", it's a dispossessed group due to colonisation. Yes, if you steal land and assets from "other minority groups" then maybe they would need recognition. This is consistent with other nations such as NZ.
  • Yes, white Australians definitely need to take responsibility for colonisation and its effects which are happening to this day. You should definitely feel for people who have had violence committed on them regardless of race.
  • Aboriginal advisory groups are often designed to fail and then shut down. It is an obvious problem for people who want to take things out of this country, sell it, and fuck off back to Britain. This one has constitutional power, so they won't be able to do that. This will protect Australians.
  • It's not "were here first" it's "were colonised". If China won a war and took over Australia, they would not just change the constitution to say "sucks to be you", they'd have to make up some shit, if only to create some sort of consent. The Australian constitution basically says "the queen says we're a country now"
  • Aboriginal people aren't dickbags, they don't want "real power". They want recognition and reconciliation. They want to re-glue the history of this nation. Take a look at the Uluru statement from the heart. It is about subtlety, sharing, and growth, not about power and control.
  • Some people are bad because they are idiots, others are bad because they choose to ignore history, and some are bad because they want to engineer hurt to others just to help themselves. You take your pick.