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Greetings!

A friend of mine wants to be more secure and private in light of recent events in the USA.

They originally told me they were going to use telegram, in which I explained how Telegram is considered compromised, and Signal is far more secure to use.

But they want more detailed explanations then what I provided verbally. Please help me explain things better to them! โœจ

I am going to forward this thread to them, so they can see all your responses! And if you can, please cite!

Thank you! โœจ

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Get what you are trying to say but both are still encrypted. They simply aren't end to end encrypted. So the messages are private. Until obviously the company servers get hacked or police raided and the keys to the encryption get stolen. You are protected against this in E2E encryption. True.

Ii guess telegram once was the alternative to whatsapp, then made maany more featutes abailable in fast time paces which led to another bunch of migrators.

Now noone wants to move away because why? For the usual end user there is no negative to them.

I am fully on your side and am using signal and matrix and try to migrate as many people as possible but its hard.

[โ€“] Bazoogle 1 points 3 hours ago

Why use two different apps? I only use Signal, and have gotten so many friends, coworkers, and family to use Signal.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Get what you are trying to say but both are still encrypted. They simply aren't end to end encrypted. So the messages are private.

You explain exactly why messages are not private: if they are not end-to-end encrypted, by definition Telegram can read all the messages. That's exactly what end-to-end is meant to protect against. So in that aspect, Signal truly is private and Telegram maybe, if you activate their private chats but I've not seen security experts praise their algorithm, compared to their regular endorsement for Signal.