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Gustavo Petro responds to Trump: “Overthrow me…the Americas and humanity will respond” (peoplesdispatch.org)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I used that link to look up the source. It wasn’t here so I posted it here. I do the same with archive links.

Do you post MBFC links on articles from outlets they classify as "unbiased" too, or just the "biased" ones?

As others have pointed out many times before, the entirely flawed premise behind MBFC is that centrism correlates with credibility and/or factualness.

I didn’t report this and don’t have a problem with it.

cool 👍

In general, the fact that they don’t disclose the country they operate out of is problematic

Who doesn't disclose where People Dispatch operates out of? MBFC? Yeah, they don't, because they're lazy hacks who's job it is to impugn the reputation of anyone doing any journalism that isn't in service of the status quo.

since we can’t know if they’re operating from a place where telling the truth is illegal.

A couple minutes of research shows that (although their contributors are all over the world) their legal entity People's Dispatch Ltd. is registered in New York. So, the way things are headed, I guess actually you might be on to something here soon 😬

Edit: I should also say that it’s important they’ve never failed a fact check. I don’t really care about them having editorial bias as long as we know what it is.

The notion that any outlet could have no bias in what they decide is and isn't worthy of reporting on, especially the people MBFC says are unbiased, is ridiculous. And it's usually not difficult to see what an outlet's bias is without relying on a 3rd party using their own bias to classify someone else's.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Do you post MBFC links on articles from outlets they classify as “unbiased” too, or just the “biased” ones?

I post links if I'm unfamiliar with a source and look them up, regardless of their conclusions. Sometimes I'll do research on a news source if they don't have an MBFC entry and share that as well. I assume there are others who are like, "cool story but... who the fuck is this?" I hope it spares them the extra steps.

If some people don't like that, I don't care. I count MBFC downvotes as upvotes. It helps people I'm overjoyed to help and pisses off people that I'm pretty okay with pissing off. I'm not letting a bunch of greasy misinfo ghouls call the shots.

A couple minutes of research shows that (although their contributors are all over the world) their legal entity People’s Dispatch Ltd. is registered in New York.

First, registering and operating are two different things. Human beings are not just bound by the laws of the country their corporation is registered in.

But... so what? If the information we have shows something that's problematic then new information becomes available that addresses our concerns... that's fine. That's how shit's supposed to work. MBFC is an information source, not the information source.

As others have pointed out many times before, the entirely flawed premise behind MBFC is that centrism correlates with credibility and/or factualness...

etc etc etc

Look, I've met my quota on debating weird MBFC conspiracy theorists. The reality is there are a lot of people who don't know what they're talking about posting links to webpages they haven't read. I'm not interested in someone's poorly thought out take on how they say the Guardian is quadruple Mein Kampf, or whatever. If you have links to peer-reviewed research that support those conclusions, I'd be happy to see them. You don't, though, because every bit of academic work on MBFC says those people are dead wrong.