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The milestone highlights how DeepSeek has left a deep impression on Silicon Valley, upending widely held views about U.S. primacy in AI and the effectiveness of Washington's export controls targeting China's advanced chip and AI capabilities.

Mirror: https://archive.is/2025.01.27-062326/https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/chinese-ai-startup-deepseek-overtakes-chatgpt-apple-app-store-2025-01-27/

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[–] Buffalox 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

has prompted U.S. tech executives to question the effectiveness of tech export controls.

It worked well against Russia and the Soviet Union, but it's been my claim for years now, that this won't work against China anymore. Because China is way more advanced now than the Soviet Union ever was by comparison for the time. And all it does is delay China while they build their own competing supply industries. And the end result will be that China will just dominate the backbone industries too.

The difference is in raw power, China has 10 times the people Russia has, and an economy that in real value more than matches USA now. In short China has all the advantages for long term developments. Except for not being ahead on chip manufacturing already.

China is already competing at top level in almost all key industries, and has absolutely unparalleled manufacturing capacity. but also technologically they are in the top of EV, Batteries, solar panels, and 44 other technology areas.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/02/china-leading-us-in-technology-race-in-all-but-a-few-fields-thinktank-finds

all of the world’s top 10 leading research institutions are based in China and are collectively generating nine times more high-impact research papers than the second-ranked country (most often the US).”

Trying to hold back China is simply not a viable option anymore.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's not just people, it's also that China invests heavily in the building blocks of effective industries. They're serious about education and healthcare as public services, they invest heavily in transit. You can't expect life to bloom in a desert, but the US keeps acting like stripping away everything necessary for industries to prosper will somehow make them prosper harder.

Requisite disclaimer; The CCP are an appalling autocracy with a litany of crimes against humanity to their name. Just because they do some things well doesn't make them worthy of admiration. Yes, I'm looking at you, .ml

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sadly "autocracy with litany of crimes against humanity" is rapidly approaching background noise when comparing nations

[–] RubicTopaz 4 points 1 week ago

At least they're doing some things right

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